Sager Chemical cruiser with full size double bit eye?

[tobiism]

Good afternoon folks, I have a sager chemical Cruiser head coming in today that seems to have a full size eye. It weighs 2 pounds 9 ounces. Have you guys seen this before? I will put pictures up when it arrives. Thanks in advance,
Matt

 

[DarthTaco123]

Could it be a ground down full sized axe?

 

[tobiism]

No, I don't think so. It's only 7 and three quarter inches long and the bit profiles look to be in proportion to an axe that length.

 

[rjdankert]

Good afternoon folks, I have a sager chemical Cruiser head coming in today that seems to have a full size eye. It weighs 2 pounds 9 ounces. Have you guys seen this before? I will put pictures up when it arrives. Thanks in advance,
Matt

I don't have the answer. However, some info.

For sale "1942-Sager Chemical Double Bit Saddle/Cruiser Axe Head-2 lb 6.8 oz-8-1/4"". "marked 2 2 on one side"

. . . 7 and three quarter inches long and the bit profiles look to be in proportion to an axe that length.

Again:

Could it be a ground down full sized axe?

Why not?

From a 1937 Warren Axe catalog:

Bob

 

[tobiism]

I don't have the answer. However, some info.

For sale "1942-Sager Chemical Double Bit Saddle/Cruiser Axe Head-2 lb 6.8 oz-8-1/4"". "marked 2 2 on one side"

Again:

Why not?

From a 1937 Warren Axe catalog:

Bob

I'm not saying that it's definitely not. But it looks in much smaller scale. And if you look at the axe from the side I would think the bit profile would be much steeper.

 

[pommie]

I was looking at the same heads when they were being sold and the reason for not getting them was the small size on a full size handle, the bit on the right to me was sharpened to much through use. the only way to be certain is the vinegar bath to see how much steel is still in the bits. The bits should be about an inch longer for the angle of the bits as the angle on the bits it to steep unless it was a north east CT etc axe head.

 

[tobiism]

Interesting Pommie, thank you for the info. I will do the vinegar bath when I receive it. I probably overpaid, but oh well such is life LOL.

 

[quinton]

A worn 3 lb. double bit makes a nice cruiser, except for the eye. I have a Belknap I turned into a beautiful lil' cruiser.. The eye gives it away

 

[rjdankert]

. . .the only way to be certain is the vinegar bath to see how much steel is still in the bits. . .

That is one way, but I believe there are other hardness testing methods that would determine how much hardened bit is in an axe. Also if a weight stamp is present on the head that would tell all.

I do not disagree that a vinegar bath is a practical home procedure to expose the temper lines.

Bob

 

[pommie]

for the amount of effort and time i would put a full size handle on the smaller bit and call it a dedicated splitter and be happy with it as there has to be a little bit of hardened steel in the bits to be able to work as a splitter and the angle of the edge would work well for the job to. Even 3 lbs swung on 30 inch handle will split a lot of wood.

 

[Square_peg]

Could it be a ground down full sized axe?

That's it. Reshape a worn out DB axe and sell it as a cruiser.