SAK VICTORINOX in superior steel

[KnifeTest]

If Vic produce their multitool in superior steel may be they can keep the leadership for longtime ?

A blade in VG10 for example ?

Why not ?

 

[klattman]

If Vic produce their multitool in superior steel may be they can keep the leadership for longtime ?

A blade in VG10 for example ?

Why not ?

Victorinox knives and SAKs in general are the most popular carried knives in the world. They will continue to be.

1. The softer steel used in SAKs is more tough than hard. Okay at edge holding, but will tend to handle abuse better (will bend instead of chip or break). This makes for a product that will take a beating.. I just reparied a 20+ year old SAK for a friend. It had bent blades and beat up implements.. very easy to repair though.

2. The steel used in SAKs is extremely rust-resistant. Have you _ever_ seen rust on a SAK?

3. Inexpensive material means they are VERY affordable.
A SAK with all S30V or VG10 implements would be much more expensive, both because of the steel cost and how difficult it is to cut and machine the steel.

4. Thin flat-ground blades makes up for the softer steel. SAKs, when sharp, will cut just as well as anything else.

5. Yep, I want a SAK with harder steel too, but we will not see it anytime soon...

 

[BuckyKatt]

2. The steel used in SAKs is extremely rust-resistant. Have you _ever_ seen rust on a SAK?

Yes. A friend of mine had a Victorinox Ranger that he had left on top of a toolbox in a leaky shed for five years... It was rusty (All the implements and liners) and the joints barely moved.

... Steel wool, WD-40 and 30 minutes had it looking brand-new aside from the scratched scales.

I suppose my point would be that they do rust, but that requires major ill-treatment and it's fixable if it does happen.

 

[fishbulb]

Only a small portion of those who would buy and carry a SAK would even know what VG-10 is or appreciate any benefits that it can offer.

They certainly wouldn't be willing to pay much more for it, which they would have to.

The people who would want it probably carry an aditional knife with their preferred steel, anyway.

 

[choubbi]

3. Inexpensive material means they are VERY affordable.
A SAK with all S30V or VG10 implements would be much more expensive, both because of the steel cost and how difficult it is to cut and machine the steel.

victorinox's blades are not machined but drop-forged, but maybe it will also be harder to drop-forge a S30V blade than one in vic's steel.

I agree with all the other points, you sumed it up very well and there are some points I didn't think about before (bending instead of chipping, easier to repair)

also, somebody who carries a SAK but really needs a better blade is often better served by carrying another knife, as it would have a better handle too, and/or a locking mechanism.

 

[KnifeTest]

victorinox's blades are not machined but drop-forged, but maybe it will also be harder to drop-forge a S30V blade than one in vic's steel.

I agree with all the other points, you sumed it up very well and there are some points I didn't think about before (bending instead of chipping, easier to repair)

also, somebody who carries a SAK but really needs a better blade is often better served by carrying another knife, as it would have a better handle too, and/or a locking mechanism.

Why LM put their blade in CM154 ?

This question is for all guys, not only choubbi

 

[choubbi]

SAK and Charges are not the same, a Charge has a one hand opening locking blade, a good shape for quite heavy tasks, unlike SAKs', which are designed for light tasks (non locking, very hard to open one handed).

154CM is justified for a blade like the one in the charge, which seems designed for heavier duty. It would be cool to have SAKs with a good steel (why not the new ZDP198?), I think I would like to but an alox model with this feature, but it's more because I'm a knife knut than because I need it. normal people wouldn't buy it, I think. it would mean to increase the price a lot(normal SAKs are so inexpensive! it could cause the price to double...).