Sal, butterfly knives?

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in the Balisong forum someone asked the question why doesn't Spyderco produce quality balisongs, well Sal, why not? They also said you yourself have a nice personal collection of Benchmade balisongs, is that true? Didn't know u were a balisong lover
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Drool.... I wish! Maybe they could make one and get it out before I get my new Benchmade 42, the wait is killing me
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A Spyderco Bali would be something to see wouldnt it? A little Spyder replacing the butterfly on the blade..,
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Yes, I am interested in , and collect Bali-songs.

We haven't ever made butterfly's. They are illegal just about everywhere.

All of these companies making these "perhaps illegal" knives are either in Oregon (or another state that permits mfg) or they are steppng into dangerous territory as far as the law goes.

sal
 
Pardon my ignorance...but...what is a bali-song? I looked some up on the web and didn't see anything special about them (at least anything that would make it illegal)....is it the length of the blade?
 
Hey bobt!

A lot of us balisong fanatics wonder too, they are just viewed as "dangerous" as autoknives ("switchblades") are.(didn't you know that autoknives are dangerous?? DOH!)
Typical political decisions that look good on paper but doesn't do skit(feces in Swedish...) to stop crimes.

Oh well, that's life in a PC world...
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Be well!/Jonas aka 2Sharp
BTW, check out the balisong foruma here at BF!

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Are you saying that Colorado doesn't allow manufacturing of Balisongs? Ought to rethink the state's nickname and call it "The Police State".

Bet you could sell a PILE of 'em.
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Blades - on the Spyderco design that we did play with (back about 15 years), the "holes" were used at the back of the handles. Two larger holes. This permited "drop" openings without using the latch. Our designs were latchless. We used a small magnet in each handle to keep it closed. the blade was long (4.5" - 109mm) thin, and fully serrated "wee hawk". very light piece. More like the Phillipine designs in terms of weight.

I had talked to Lester about making one for us, but he was pretty busy at the time and we have our hands full as well in golden.

They are illegal to import so we couldn't make them in Seki.

Velitrius - Butterfly knives are illegal in almost every state.

sal
 
Hey, guys, give Sal a break. The last thing that he needs to do is to create an image problem by going out and making a knife known to be illegal in nearly every jurisdiction in the country.

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Sal, maybe you could make them in the USA and sell them in the countries where Balisongs ARE legal. Germany, France, Spain, Italy...... all are waiting for a quality product.

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As I recall, it was Pacific Cutlery that ran into US Customs problems when they had their butterfly knives made overseas. They probably scared people when they sold it from the start as a martial bladecraft knife, and offered books and videotapes.

Now I see, in any knife distributor catalog and all over the Net, cheap butterfly knives being openly imported from the PRC and openly sold in US interstate commerce.

A lot of dealers will tell you they won't ship a butterfly knife to a California address, so I guess that DA's in other states haven't been making an issue of them.

There are 19 states where switchblades are not an issue in local law, and probably at least a dozen more (including New York, last time I heard) where the courts have not called them "gravity knives."

That Spyderco butterfly knife design sounds very interesting. Perhaps if it was made shorter (75-80 mm), with a totally utilitarian blade - high grind, no swedges - and marketed, not as a "click-clack" Phillipine Martial Arts knife, but as an upgrade of that folding Finnish fishing knife they used to import - a strong and safe utility folder.

Maybe offer it as an alternative for people who don't have the strength and agility in their fingers to work a conventional lockback. It should also be a good folder for women with long fingernails.

The "click-clack" people will know what to do with it without prompting.

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[This message has been edited by James Mattis (edited 05-09-2000).]
 
James, which states are switchblades legal in? More specifically, is PA auto-friendly? I'm pretty sure that they're all right with balisongs, but I don't know about autos. TIA.
 
Latchless, but with magnets to hold it closed. That sounds interesting.
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Maybe someday the goofy laws will be cleaned out and Spyderco will be able to make some balisong knives.


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