salt and kiwi passaround review

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Ok, to add ina long line of reviews:

The kiwi is a small knife, but since I have been wearing a suit to work everyday, It was a nice addition. Generally I hate ss knives, as my hands get too sweaty to use them, but in a small gent's knife, it wasn't too bad. The vg-10 I am beginning to love, and sharpened up nicely with a few minutes on a sharpmaker. It did all the office duties with aplomb, and my dad (a knife abuser) commented that it was really nice. One of the few problems that i had with it was since it was ss, and there is no clip, opening it was difficult at times. There is nearly nothing to 'wedge' your fingers against. The finger grooves were fabulous though, and made the knife very useable. It carried very well. Mostly it made me want either the stag model or a jester. The lockup was solid, and the lock was well placed and easy to use. The handle was sort of hand filling (I have big hands), and felt secure. The bleade does not fall between the scales evenly-it wobbles a little when closed, but no such problems when open. I may buy one for my dad.

The salt I hate to review as the salt, as it is so close to the rescue. I liked the steel-it was reminicient of a better aus-8. It cut well, and is not easy to stain. I had a few problems with the knife though.
The serrations look poorly planned out. as you get to the knife tip, they just stop randomly.
the handle bugs me. something that spyderco has been doing lately is to put a choil in at the top of the handle. this means that there is extra handle when closed, and that there are 2 distinct grips that you can use-finger in or out of the choil. when you do not use the choil, yuou have a little handle, and about one inch of wasted knife (the unused portion of the handle plus the blade part of the choil). this is present on the schempp persian, the paramilitary, the rescues, and a few other knives. I son't see why you would need to choke up on this knife at all, but the ridges on the blade and in the choil at least make it secure. The new frn is too thin. It feels thin, and I wish that the thicker frn around the pivot pin would come back for sal and co. (circa 1997.) The volcano grip on the handles is super secure, but will molest your pants to death. It could use a little smoothing down.
The salt looks and acts like a work knife, and should come in a different color or 2. The oversized hole is welcome for me, and is a good fir for a knife like this. If I sailed or something, I may find a use for this knife, but barring that, I'll stick with an endura.
 
Dijos said:
The serrations look poorly planned out. as you get to the knife tip, they just stop randomly.
Yeah, they end on the one I have right in the middile of a small scallop. To have it even the blade length would need to be adjusted slightly or leave a small section at the end of the tip plain, I see this as mainly cosmetic though and would leave it as is personally.

[integral index finger choil]

this means that there is extra handle when closed, and that there are 2 distinct grips that you can use-finger in or out of the choil. when you do not use the choil, yuou have a little handle, and about one inch of wasted knife
The handle isn't longer due to the choil. The Endura style grip on the Pacific Salt it is longer than on the Alantic Salt, however due to the finger choil the effective handle length is a half an inch longer on the Alantic even though the FRN grip is a quarter of a inch shorter.

I son't see why you would need to choke up on this knife at all
With an index finger in the choil the lock is made more secure and you gain a leverage advantage.

The new frn is too thin.
Ergonomics, or issues with lock security?

The volcano grip on the handles is super secure, but will molest your pants to death. It could use a little smoothing down.
As you noted this is a working knife, and it isn't an issue with denim and heavier materials. The secure grip is welcomed in many situations, around salt water or in emergency / rescue situations where the grip may be compromised.

Very detailed, astute, and well constructed analysis of the two knives.

-Cliff
 
Making "Serrated Rescue" style models for the past 23 years has taught us that stopping the tip in the middle of a serration is the strongest tip. When we made them with the tip ending in a single tooth, the tooth was very thin and more prone to break.

On the "too thin", as Cliff mentioned, why do you think it's too thin?

sal
 
It isn't a function thing, just a ergo thing. The handle felt thin to me. It didn't flex or anything. In a side by side comparison, the frn is thinner than it was 10 years ago.
 
Yeah. for ergonomic reasons, especially with heavier cutting, a thicker handle can be a lot more comfortable in extended use.

-Cliff
 
As an update on the serration issue, I mentioned this to my brother who is currently carrying the Pacific Salt, among others at work. He likes the way it ends pattern wise, it works very well for cutting sheetrock (you just score it an break it, not actually saw through it), and in general has high praise for the utility of the tip profile.

-Cliff
 
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