Saltwater Folder?

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Deon

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I am considering a Boye Dentritic Cobalt folder ($80 - $90) as a saltwater folder, are there any others for a similar price that I should have a look at?

No/minimal maintenace and price are the most important considerations.

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For a saltwater folder solution, I went with a titanium BM Emerson, when they were still available. I think that Emerson makes its own version now, but it's probably out of the range you suggested. Also, durability could be a proble, Talonite - price is even higher. Boker might make a ceramic, which has its own limitations. Your choice sounds like a good one for the price.
 
Stick with the Boye. I have one that I use onlyfor salt-water fishing. I keep it on an extra long lanyard that I attach to my belt. I then place the knife in my back pocket. Never lost it or had a problem retreiving and using it.

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Thanks guys, that what I thought.

I also want to use mine exclusively for saltwater fishing.
 
Howabout a Simonich talonite Carnie? I think there's one at KnifeArt, or one of the other leading dealers. I just got a custom Tighe and a small Sebbie so it's not in the cards for me - but whatta beauty it is...
 
If you don't want to spend a fortune, there's a company in California called Ocean Master that makes a diving folder with a titanium blade, titanium backspring (it's a Spyderco-style lockback), dual thumbstuds, etc. The handle is Zytel as far as I can tell, and shaped identically to Benchmade's Ascent series. See if you can track them down! I saw one while in the Caymans, and the box had an address in California. The knife only runs around $65.00 or so.

Professor.
 
I found the website on the first try. It's www.oceanmaster.com if you can imagine that! There's a "Dealers" link you can try to get a source on one nearer to your home.

Professor.
 
Prof, that looks very good!
The Emerson/Benchmade had a tanto point, liner lock, part serration option and a forified edge for durability. I wonder how the one you found would stack up against the Boyes Cobalt? Anyway, great find!
 
Damn, Professor! Now I hafta go buy a new knife!
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Steve Harvey has reported problems with the edge rolling and deforming with the Boye folder. This was while performing radial cuts on a plastic soda bottle bottom with no lateral force, hardly a strenuous use.

I have two suggestions. Get a folder in a 440 grade stainless and flush it with tap water and Tuf-Cloth it when you are finished diving.

Second, if you are forgetful about maintainance, try this one:
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The Kit Carson model #18 with 4" Talonite (r) blade, and Ti scales and screws. You could leave it soaking in sea water and it wouldn't hurt it. Walt

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Walt,
That's a surprise, but I've never used a "dendritic".
I'm a talonite fan, and Kit has been praising Stellite 6k so much he's got me convinced. But there have been some reports or rumours of these edge rolling under high strain. I've never had it happen to me, but it's stopped me from using Stellite/talonite for chopping. Anyway, any Carson is likely to be way out of the price range suggested here, no?
Sometimes conditions are such that you can't clean and dry your knife for many hours at a time, and that's too long for even stainless steel [I found that out up in Ellesmere one very, very long day with a 440V]
I think titanium still sounds good, although certainly not perfect. Maybe Boker will soon have a folding version with the new "impregnated" titanium used in their new chef knife?
What about carbon fiber folders? Are any good ones out there in the suggested price range?

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You may be interested in one of our ALL STAINLESS folders, available in 4 blade styles, clip point (serrated and non-serrated), and tanto plain and serrated. Here's a link to one very nice knife:

http://www.estoremanager.com/deltazkniv-118/Product.asp?ProductID=144138

Good luck with your search!

Kind regards,
BarnZ

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As HJK said, sometimes, for many hours, you can't clean the knife. I think the Boye would probably be a good choice. After much saltwater fishing and boating (I grew up a few hundred yards from the ocean), I really appreciate anything that doesn't corrode,
even 420. It only has to cut line, bait and fish, and resharpening is easy enough. In real-world use, your tools need to be as functional for the task as possible. You won't be cutting the bottoms of plastic containers. Salt water is a special case.(Folding knives around sand is another thing to consider). On a boat, long lanyard, attached to belt is very important.
I've maintained carbon steel around salt water, but it's a lot of work, and life is short.

Walter
 
HJK; the same day I was visiting Steve Harvey, and he had the edge roll on the Boye knife, he also tested a Darrel Ralph folder of mine which had a very thin edge. This knife failed dramatically, a thin piece of edge ripped right out!

However, I whipped out my Kit Carson #18 folder, identical to the one above, and it passed through the soda bottles and plastic flower pots without problem. I have not found that the proper edge geometry to prevent edge rolling has hampered cutting ability. The same folder is my every day carry, and still going strong.

Yep, it is a little pricey, but only if you look at it short term. Over the long run, I might spend 10 cents a day for the privilege of having the best folder around in my pocket.

Walt
 
Walt, you'll get no argument from me. I just picked up a knife from brian Tighe the blade of which was a Ralph damascus. It cost more than any stellite/talonite, but I think it's worth it. I also [when I recover from this last purchase] will buy a talonite or stellite folder, but I haven't decided which one. Kit certainly makes superb knives. So does Simonich. Tighe and Lightfoot are into Stellite now too. I think that material is very well suited to folders.
My comments about price were meant to address the concerns and parameters set out in the first post, which I do respect. Not everyone wants or can afford a few hundred dollars for a knife, however superior. Hopefully as time passes and things develop, they will.
 
Walt - your point about 10 cents a day really makes sense.
As you know, many people have dozens of cheaper knives which would equal the cost of a couple of really good ones.
But- I do like having a few cheapies for some purposes.
The Carson is a beauty, but/and I wouldn't use it near water without a lanyard.
 
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