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Hoodoo

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What happened to the manners people used to display around here? Sure there have been flames but not sprouting up like mushrooms. And now we see a new iteration: if a thread gets locked down, just start a new one with a slight twist and keep pickin' at the scab. I guess this must be what passes for amusement for some people. I dunno. I do know that the level of rudeness has required extraordinary measures by the moderators.

Maybe we need to post the rules for the forum. I'm a little vague on them myself. I thought personal attacks and name calling are banned, aren't they?


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Hoodoo

The low, hoarse purr of the whirling stone—the light-press’d blade,
Diffusing, dropping, sideways-darting, in tiny showers of gold,
Sparkles from the wheel.

Walt Whitman
 
On principle I agree with you Hoodoo but in reality this place runs pretty smoothly.I'm constantly amazed at how few problems arise from 5,000+ opinionated members expressing ideas.I have seen public library board meetings get way more out of control than anything I see around here
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Plus anyone I've ever argued with here if I met them in person ,I would surely buy them a beer.Just the fact that thousands of people congregate here to get all worked up over knives is amazing,that the discussions are lively and heated is no surprise.This place is an amazing resource I learn something new here every day.
troy
 
Maybe it's time for us to start clamping down hard on flames again.

Get ready for the latest bout of people claiming censorship, that we're violating their free speech, and that they are going to sue!
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Anyhow, if a thread is getting out of hand, be sure to notify us so we can step in. If you don't let us know, you can't be sure that we've seen it. Be sure to be specific and put the URL, poster and section you find objectionable in your email.

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com

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I don't know what it was,maybe I just wasn't expecting it,but db when I scrolled down to your post. I just about rolled off my chair, I was laughing my A** off so hard.
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[This message has been edited by TOMBSTONE (edited 03-27-2000).]
 
Troy,
Your gona buy me a beer??Love them thick german beers!!!
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Jay
Life is like a box of chocolates,never know what your gona git!
 
You, me,and Tim knockin back a few at the bar.(i'm buying)I would be honored and I would be in good company.
later
troy
 
Troy, you want to buy me a beer too, even though I'm underaged?
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Also, I'm only about 30-45 minutes away from you by car!
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-Chang the Asian Janitorial Apparatus
 
Sure Chang!not
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I'm going to make it down pretty soon.My wife had a baby last week so I wont make it down for a while.Get any new knives lately?

Oh yeah,I bought a new squeegee yesterday
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troy
 
Hoodoo, I agree with what Kit said in that referenced thread you posted. This place would be pretty bland if there was no argueing.

But we all have a common interest, knives.

Lets not turn this into a forum with tons of locked threads just because someone disagrees with what is said.
 
Where did you guys grow up Sunny Brook Farm?
My family used harsher language and got in more fights over Christmas dinner. If all you knife packin', BG stabbin' Bad a$$'s can't take it a little ribbing maybe you should take your weenie butts back to ChurchChat.
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This place is TOO nice, nobody acts like this. GET REAL!
 
I, for one, tend to agree with PhilL. If you notice, nothing attracts people like a good fight. Weather you are watching because you are into that sort of thing or because it offends you, the net result is the same. Agreeing on everything all of the time gets pretty dry after awhile.

Take care all,
Derek

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Emersonknives.com

The #1 Hard Use Knives In The World

[This message has been edited by Derek (edited 03-28-2000).]
 
I've been torn on the issue. While I agree that not everybody has to eat Wonder Bread, and disagreement and debate can be a good and healthy thing, I have been wondering why things have gone from "Well, I don't know if I agree..." to "&*%$^@&%$^)*%KHG%^#^FLUT&^O&R" within seemingly three or four posts. The rate of escalation from disagreement to argumentive sniping has been increasing. Language was more civil, smileys used more, self-depricating humor abounded, and there was more "humble opinions", rather than "I'm right, you're wrong, and you're also a stupid fool for thinking the way you do..." Of course, this leads to arguing simply for the sake of arguing. I really think we can find more constructive uses for our energy and shared knowledge.

Granted, I know nobody has actually said such a thing, but the inflection and tone I've sensed says as much. There've been several times that I haven't posted anything to several threads simply because I didn't feel like getting dragged into an argument simply because I wanted to add to a point or express an opinion. I've been here from the beginning, imagine how hospitable this must look to a new visitor.

I know sometimes that if we can't stand the heat, we should stay out of the kitchen. Ya know what? I kinds like the porch, sipping on a tall ice tea whittling on an old stick.
Isn't that what these forums are about?

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Don LeHue

Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings...they did it by killing all those who opposed them.
 
Here are the rules from the FAQ:

What can't I post on BladeForums.com?

That's a bit more complicated, this is quite a list:

Flames:
Insults, lies, accusations, etc. that are designed to hurt or otherwise damage another's feelings or reputation, and
have no basis in fact. If the comments are based on facts and the truth, then they are not flames. Moderators and the Administrator have the final word on what constitutes flaming.

Trolls: Messages or threads designed to start emotionally or otherwise highly charged arguments.

The rules seem liberal enough and I don't think BF is trying to discourage "heated" discussion, just mean-spiritedness and petty-mindedness. People who stray into the world of personal slurs and name-calling are no longer discussing "facts."

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Hoodoo

The low, hoarse purr of the whirling stone—the light-press’d blade,
Diffusing, dropping, sideways-darting, in tiny showers of gold,
Sparkles from the wheel.

Walt Whitman
 
***Runs into thread wearing Nomex and carrying a flame thrower***

did somebody say flame war?

hello?

hello?


dang nobody's around

***wanders out of thread***
 
The interesting thing about this type of public, yet somewhat private form of discourse is that there are people drawn here with similar interests yet often with vastly dissimilar points of view. Those who post here do so out of a passion for our chosen hobby/occupation, and that passion is reflected in many posts and responses to posts. While it is impossible (and pretty stinkin' boring) for all to agree on any & every subject, it is possible to disagree fundamentally while maintaining a sense of decorum. Argue, but argue well. It is, after all the variety and change that makes this knife thing interesting- otherwise, we'd all be walking around with a piece of knapped obsidian (and probably arguing about that as well). The name calling, etc., should be left in the schoolyard. Anyone who has been here for any length of time can recall some fairly heated discussions, many of which spiraled into personal attacks & should have been removed from the public areas- if you have a beef- take it to e-mail.

*getting off of soapbox now*

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Runs With Scissors
AKTI# A000107
 
As long as the name calling, and giving personal information about people isn't involved, I don't see a problem with a healthy disagreement. Now when people start getting pissy and especially when personal information starts getting broadcast across the ether, then I have a problem. Those are the threads I stay away from.

Brandon

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"You should never never doubt what nobody is sure about..."
 
PhilL,

i agree fully! if you want sunny brook farm go to mr. rogers neighborhood! lets get real here.

another thing that really bothers me lately is moderators editing members posts and deleting them! is freedom of speech not allowed here in forums? is nobody allowed their own opinion anymore? i think this is WRONG!

i agree that name calling and outright lies and just badmouthing people is wrong too but many here need to grow up and not be so thin skinned. if you all never noticed, the argumentive and heated threads get the most attention and get peoples feelings out! this is wrong? welll the forums sure are boring without a few good heated threads!

c'mon guys join the real world! if you cant take a little ribbing, then stay away
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james, you gonna edit this post too??
 
We give people a lot of leeway here, because we work off the premise that if you treat people like they are adults, they will act like adults.

That being said, Freedom of Speech doesn't apply here - this site is private property and you agreed to follow our rules when you signed up.

If you can't discuss things rationally, and civilly, then don't discuss them at all. This isn't Mister Roger's Neighborhood, but at the same time we don't tolerate abusive behavior. Calling people names doesn't win your case for you - reason and logic will.

Good natured ribbing is one thing. Out and out flaming is another. I've seen far too many posts lately that are out of line and uncalled for.

Think of BladeForums.com as a friend's house. Be polite, act like a guest, and try to be friendly, even to that guy who ass you'd like to kick.

Save the fighting for when you are back in your own house.

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com

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