Sandvik Steel...Any info out there?

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Hi, I have some steel from a bandsaw blade maker...Says Sandvik Steel on it...

Has lot#'s and other info but no designation...

Anyone have experiance with this steel? Composition? Heat treat? Any Information would be lovely...I can get quite a bit of this steel and would love to make some knives
with it...

Running Dog


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I've got the composition of about 50 different steels listed on my site under <a href="steelcmp.htm">Composition of Knife Steels</a>, including Sandvik (12C27).

The primary elements are:
Carbon: .60 - .70
Manganese: .35 - .38
Chromium: 13.5 - 14.0

I've got the darned heat treat specs around here somewhere. Still looking...

Terry Primos
primos@shreve.net http://www.shreve.net/~primos

 
That's funny...I went to the internet looking for info and your page came up!

Sounds good, looks good...I cut a Canadian style skinner out of it, fired and oil quenched and now I'm double tempering at 400...I'll do some cutting with it and see how it goes...

Any specific info you find would be great, thanks!



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Beware!
Sandvik makes lots and lots of different steels. 12C27 is just one of them and from the source you mentioned i doubt that this will be 12C27, which is stainless steel used for cutlery and won't withstand the stress of a bandsaw.

Achim
 
Running Dog,
AchimW is absolutely right. With all that chromium, 12c27 surely wouldn't be the same steel that you have.

Another Sandvik steel that might be what you have is Sandvik 15N2. The composition is:

Carbon: 0.75
Manganese: 0.4
Chromium: 0.10
Nickel: 2.0

Thanks AchimW, for helping me get my head on straight.

[This message has been edited by primos (edited 07-06-2000).]
 
I'm guessing but it is probably 15n20, the swedish version of L-6. Is it a lumber mill blade?
 
Yes this is steel for very large 10-20 inch wide bandsaw blades to cut logs at mills...

I'm hope it is something I can use...I can get large sheets of it, some 20x30 or more...

If it is 15n20 or similer, I would like to make some damascus with 1084...

I can get quite a bit of this steel...Upwards of 1000 lbs a month!

I am looking at the idea of starting a business just to deal with this steel and make working knives for general consumption...

I hate to see this steel all go to waste...The saw company pays to have it hauled off! They would be happy to give me all I wanted...

It sounds like it would work for knives...enough carbon for hardening ect...

I am taking to the boss next week, I'm sure I can find out more...

Thanks for the Sandvic contact...This was just the info I was looking for...
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I'll let you know how it works out...

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This may sound stupid, but did you ask the bandsaw maker what the blades are made of? If he orders from a catalog it should have some basic description of the blade steel. There are several types of blade materials and some basic description should be in there.

A first question is, is it stainless. 12C27 is stainless, L6 equivalent steel would not be stainless.
 
Jeff,
We've pretty much ruled out the 12C27. That was my stupid error that 12C27 even came into the thread. I saw Running Dog's question about Sandvik, and jumped right in there with the specs for Sanvik 12C27 without taking the time to realize that we were talking about saw blades. I doubt that bansaw blades would be 12C27 any more than they'd be 440C. I bet we're gonna find out that it's 15N20.

Later that day...

I decided to edit this post and explain why this thread keeps growing and why Running Dog and I are so interested to know what the steel is that he's got. Some folks may be saying "Who cares?"

IF the steel is 15N20, and IF Running Dog can get 1000 pounds a month, and IF it's a good price, and IF Running Dog starts selling it for a good price, then some of us "Hammer Boys" will be tickled.

One reason is that the Swedish Sandvik 15N20 is real close to our L6, and that makes a good forged knife. Also, 15N20 has a good bit of nickel in it that that will make a beautiful high contrast Damascus.

[This message has been edited by primos (edited 07-06-2000).]
 
Yes, we are a funny bunch to get worked up over a stack of scrap metal...However it seems to be very nice scrap metal
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Jeff: The boss was out of town...I have an appointment with him next week...

As far as I can tell, the only cost will be the shipping and handling...My plan is to get them cut into blanks locally...Much of the scrap has cut edges, ect and will call for careful handling...
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Primos, thnks for your help...I'll send you a piece if you want...email me...

See a picture of this steel at: http://runningdogknives.homestead.com/sawblade.html

Running Dog


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