Sanrenmu 913P (Second update, not impressed).

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A friend wants to trade me a Sanrenmu 913P new in the box, and a lightly used Ganzo G704 for an AR15 magazine and 30 rounds of ammo. I have plenty, so I decided what the hey since he's new to guns. I've heard the 913P is basically a differently shaped Spyderco Tenascious, but I haven't seen anything saying it uses bronze bushings.

Can anyone confirm the 913P uses bronze bushings?

I know the G704 is a knock off, but it's as a favor to a friend who's stubborn when it comes to charity. Are these even useable? He says it's the new tan version and that lock up was solid. Worst case scenario I throw it in the junk drawer. I haven't had good experiences with the axis lock and I highly doubt the Chinese can make it better with lower quality materials.
 
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This is what my G704 looks like. I got it as a package deal on the bay for a really good price. It was a package deal with an Enlan EL-02. The guy I got it from was trying out his hand at making scales. I just acid washed the blade and the clip. I have not try to tear it apart as I do not abuse my knives, no matter what kind they are. The blade sharpens up nicely and holds an edge for a decent amount of time. Just my $.02.

This is what they looked like when I first got them:
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This is what it looks like now:
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I think it makes a decent beater knife. If you don't like it, you can always post it up in the PIF thread :thumbup:
 
Just to update, I went through with this trade. Surprisingly, I'm more impressed with the Ganzo than the Sanrenmu. The 913P has that same hollow dinky feeling of the Tenascious and the action is about the same. It does use bronze bushings and seems decent enough. The Ganzo has plastic bushings, but holy crap I'm impressed for a knife that costs $15 or so. Anyone who says they're Benchmade quality is full of it, but impressive for the cost. I did apply some lube to the axis channels as it was a little gritty and there is a slight amount of fore and aft play if you really push it.
 
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Both are solid knives. The 913p is really impressive, it has a thick liner lock. It is basically a re-bladed Benchmade Vex. Great sheepsfoot blade.
 
Yeah, for less than $20 you can't go wrong. Neither knife is comparable to the value or quality of my Utilitac II though. I like variety and all, but the Utilitac blows both of these knives out of the water.

I'll add a bit more of an in depth review to this thread later. No offense to said people, but I felt that most of the reviews I read were a little under critical from people who likely stick to one end of the pricing spectrum. These are officially my cheapest knives and I carry a variety ranging up to the $600 mark so I'll be as honest as possible in pros and cons.
 
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I have the 913p in black and silver.

The handle is similar to that on the Tenacious. The 913p is very stout and certainly worth $15-$20.

One thing to watch out for: the choil jimping is pretty aggressive and can be uncomfortable.

A good nuking would certainly improve the appearance of either the black or silver.
 
I don't have any $600 knives, but I do have my share of Benchies. I got these knives both for I think it was $20 plus shipping. Something I felt that I just couldn't pass up. I know what it is. It is a dressed up sub $20 China knife and I treat it as such. It has surprised me in its ability to withstand the little that I have used it for. As I stated in my post, I don't abuse any of my knives, as I believe that you should use the right tool for the job.

I see it like having a 80's model Yugo car. You can dress it up, paint it do whatever to it and it is still going to be a Yugo. :D
 
Sanrenmu 913P.

First, the specs taken directly from Sanrenmu's site.

Blade: 8CrMov14 (57-58HRC), Tini Finish 3 5/16 in. (8.4cm), 1/8 in. (3.29mm) thick
Scale: Terxtured G10
Overall: 7 11/16 in. (19.5cm)
Lock: Liner Lock
Weight: 5.10oz (132g)

The specs are pretty close, but I can tell you with all assurance that their "tini" coating is not titanium nitride. Whatever it is, it is definitely a water based paint. I have yet to do anything to compromise the finish, but like with all of my reviews, I do an initial and an updated usage review. I tried to take some pictures but the cloudy weather just wasn't doing my old phone camera any favors.

We'll get back to the blade. The finish is as stated above, a water based paint. Real titanium nitride would be nice, but whatever "tini" is it will suffice. The Sanrenmu markings look clean and professional. The blade is a very Benchmade like sheepsfoot design. It has an angle to it that should make cutting on flat surfaces a breeze. The tip has a very slight false edge that tapers in closer to the tip. This helps get some stickiness to it, but getting it to stab into a log for a photo was a chore compared to my clips, drops, spears, and tantos. If you want a pig sticker, this is not the knife. However, if you want a slasher, this is perfect.

The knife came mediocre sharp. As in I've only had one modern knife come out of the box duller, which is my Ganzo G704-Y. It can cut paper, but it doesn't slice it and is no where near shaving sharp. From what I read, the sharpness consistency on these does vary widely, and for $14, who cares? I use my knives hard at times so out of the box sharpness doesn't matter unless you plan to never take it out of your pocket. I'm not a fan of serrations, but they are significantly sharp.

The thumbstuds are very large and easy to access. The action was pretty tight out of the box, and the knife does use what look to actually be brass washers. With a slight wrist flick the thumbstuds send the blade open easily, and in time I have no doubt any wrist movement will be unecessary. Again I can't stress how convenient the oversized thumbstuds are.

Lock up is achieved using a liner lock and external stop pin. The liner and lock pin are pretty thick, and that goes double for a sub $20 Chinese knife. The liner locks at about 40%, which in my opinion is a bit late for a brand new knife. Keep in mind the liner is about 33% thicker than that of my Buck Vantage Force Pro though. In fact, I only own one knife with a thicker liner, which is my Zero Tolerance 0350. It doesn't lock up as authorative as my 0350 or my Utilitac II despite that though. There is no slop when locked up, the blade is nice and centered when closed, and the detent retention is about perfect.

The handles are made of thick G10. Thick enough that the width is the same as my 0350. As mentioned above, the grip is the leftovers of the Benchmade Vex. It feels very good in the hand and is quite comfortable. It has jimping on the blade spine, liners, and even the liner lock. The liner does protrude a little bit, but it's nowhere near as offensive as my Buck Vantage. So I'm not worried about accidental engagement like with the Buck, but it is apparent when gripping it due to the jimped lock.

The knife is only drilled for tip down carry, which is a major turn off for me. Unlike most cheap knives, the clip screws actually extend into the liner which is far tougher than only anchoring into the grip. Heck, even my 0350 is anchored only into the G10. Still, I despise tip down carry but with no flipper I guess I can live with it. The knife carries about a half inch deep. The deeper and more discreet, the better in my eyes. So that comes as a bonus for my use.

The knife does have some heft. It uses pillar style spacers instead of a solid G10 back spacer to save weight, but the thick liners lack any relief to save weight. Honestly, I like a knife with a little heft. When I'm out on patrol it's good to know something is there without having to check. Despite the unrelieved liners, the balance puts an obvious majority of the weight from the pivot forward. In all honesty, the knife would feel weird if it was any lighter in the handle.

Overall, I think it's a good buy for $15. It's been alluded that the Tenascious is just a reshape of this, which is just a reshape of a Benchmade Vex. While the pivot is the same, the Tenascious uses thinner liners and thinner grips. They are very similar, but if given a choice of the two I would pick the 913P simply because it's a bit more stout.

It is a solid knife for $14. I would have to say the Ontario Utilitac II is still the reigning champion in my collection. I'm going to start in on hard use testing of the 913P, but it has a long ways to go before I trust it enough to carry at work like my 0350 and Utilitac II. For $20 shipped, I'm happy for my initial impression. Now let's see how it does in time.
 
Thanks. Would have been better with pictures though. I'll try to snap some before I start beating on it for the whole before and after factor.

Edit: Just sharpened this thing. Holy crap that took some effort. This thing is pretty hard for your typical alphabet soup steel. Much more so than the Ganzo which is now incredibly sharp.
 
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Some terrible pictures so people know what model I'm referencing. Also pictured is the other half of the trade. My two cheapest knives and my first knock off. :eek:


 
Less than a week with this knife and I'm unimpressed. Just like my experience with the Tenascious, the liner lock is kind if spongey, and the blade steel is hard to sharpen comparatively to how quick it loses it's edge.

The liner quickly moved to about the 50% lockup mark after some flicking. The action is about as smooth as the Tenascious, which is not very in my opinion. It does seem to have stabilized in the 50% area.

It also shares my dislike of the G10 on the Tenascious. It's simply not grippy enough and is made using too much epoxy so I don't think it has much strength.

The tip down pocket clip is placed just right to interfere with getting a 100% choke around the choil.


I'd say the Ganzo is a better knife even. To those who say the Ganzo is just 8CR13MOV steel, I disagree. I don't doubt it's not 440C, but it holds it's edge better than 8CR and seems a bit easier to sharpen. I still won't recommend it since it's a knock off.

My Ontario Utilitac II is still the dominating champion of low priced EDC, and I highly recommend it.
 
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