SAR 6 (SAR6) vs. Hell Razor (HR) / Mud Razor (MR)

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I'm planning on buying a mid size busse knife and have narrowed down my choice to either the SAR 6 or the Hell Razor. It'll be mainly a forest knife, so used for general foresty tasks including but not limited to: Wood prep, food prep, animal prep, fighting bears, etc.

I'm leaning toward the SAR 6 right now. If I did get the HR I'd most likely grind down the swedge and round out the butt. Could anyone who has used both please let me know your thoughts on the two? (Tim, as you've written lots on the subject already please don't feel obligated to reply). I normally wear "large" gloves, so I think my hands are about average sized.

Thanks :D
 
The coating on the hell razor might be better for a lot of outdoor use, but i have heard that the satin finish is better for food prep. If you are going to be doing a lot of food prep, I would go with the sar 6. Either are excellent choices.

Also, if this is going to be your first busse, get whichever one you want. You will likely be getting a lot more in the near future and be broke like the rest of us :)
 
Are you able to find one of the following to buy? The Hell Razor and Mud Razor is becoming harder to find. Not sure everyone knows just because you want a knife doesn't mean you have the opportunity to buy one.
 
I love the Hell Razor. Not a SAR-4/6/8 fan for the most part. Keep in mind the SAR handle is likely LONGER than the HR. And is probably a bit more butt-heavy because of it. I'd have to check, but I think the HR is thinner, too.

OK, I'm a sucker for a harpoon tip. That's my real answer. :)
 
Liu Kang said:
Are you able to find one of the following to buy? The Hell Razor and Mud Razor is becoming harder to find. Not sure everyone knows just because you want a knife doesn't mean you have the opportunity to buy one.
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I know of at least one that is available right now. Both are about the same price.
 
I absolutely adore my SAR6. That being said, if I was in your position I would grab a HR/MR. My thinking is that the Razor's are getting more rare, and it should be more likely that you could get a SAR in the future if you want one.

SAR6 is more of a bush knife while HR is a fighter I think though...

Either way you score a sweet chunk of INFI! goodluck :thumbup:
 
You wouldn't be making a bad choice getting a SAR6. It is an amazing blade. :thumbup:
 
Fight bears often? Haha I have a muddy razor and I love it. Great feel in the hand, heavy blade. In my opinion. A great all purpose knife. They are extremely hard to find for a decent price. Most have doubled in value. I got a good deal getting mine
 
Wow, I somehow missed this thread even though he was asking me. Sorry about that. I don't know if this will help the Rooster81, but it might help others.
I have had both and I sold the HR even with it being modified to make it more woods use friendly but kept a SAR6.
Hell Razor
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SAR 6 with the rest of the family (pre SARGE7 pic)
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The SAR6 & Hell Razor are both good choices, but my preference is toward the SAR for woods work where HR would be more of a military design.
They both look great and are great knives in their own right, but with woods work being the primary need to fill here is why I as someone who lives in the woods choose the SAR 6:
It does everything in the woods well (sans bear fighting, I use guns or evasion for that), is satin with full convex zero edge and excellent balance with nuclear meltdown treatment. Yet you still have the thumb jimping if you really need a striking surface for fire steel or flint and a round pommel that allows you to hammer or drill by hand if you need to. The bigger handle is shaped perfectly to let you choke back and turn your ~6" blade into about an 8-9" effective chopper. It is the perfect balance between the SAR 4 and the SAR 8 for a one woods knife solution.
You can see how it lines up from Boney Active Duty to FBM LE here:
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SAR8, SARGE7, TG, SAR6
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BAD, HG55, SAR 6, FBMLE
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SAR6 Size comparison of 18 other blades
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Sarge7 and SARsquatch fall into this category too and even a SAR 8 is great. I do highly recommend something small like a warden, duty, sar3, meaner, rodent3 or 311 (I'm looking forward to trying out the mini Vex in this role) to accompany for detailed wood work and a dedicated shaving edge that won't get dulled by bigger knife tasks in case you need to process game or remove body hair to treat an injury miles from nowhere. Bandaids/superglue & body hair = no go, unless you are specifically using the hair to thatch the superglue to seal a bigger wound than you have kit to treat.

Hope this helps, have fun and stay safe out in the wild woods. :D :thumbup:
 
"Bandaids/superglue & body hair = no go, unless you are specifically using the hair to thatch the superglue to seal a bigger wound than you have kit to treat."

Wow. Have you had this happen Tim?
 
A few months after this thread started, chainsaw very lightly meets kneecap, nobody around to help patch it.
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Took a little piece of kneecap out as you see the white.
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Only used super glue & shaved leg hair at first for an hour or so then later switched out to super glue & bandaid bridges for the remainder of healing process.
Healed nicely, no stitches or staples. :) Gotta be careful in the woods. ;)
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How did you keep that from getting infected??? It certainly worked out for you. Gotta remember to put supwrglue on the shopping list......
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
How did you keep that from getting infected??? It certainly worked out for you. Gotta remember to put supwrglue on the shopping list......
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That was an interesting learning experience that wound up teaching me the effectiveness of Cold Pressed Neem Seed Oil. The stuff is pretty much anti- everything bad (viral, septic, bacterial, fungal, etc., even used as a contraceptive by some) and is referred to as 'nature's pharmacy tree' in India where it is from. I bought a gallon of it ten years ago and it works better than any of the modern chemical stuff with no burn. I would just squirt it out of a syringe to flush the wound and it kept it nice & clean. The oil doesn't smell the greatest, but it sure does smell better than the chemicals I tried first which did not work and allowed the wound to start stinking prior to neem oil use. One treatment and all the funk was gone and it didn't itch as bad while healing from then on. :thumbup:


Cut it out, that was a pretty nasty one, I hope you didn't lose any function from that.
 
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