SAR U-TU ( ULU Tool Utility ) Proto

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Have had some inquire's about building a ulu so started on this proto

For the test and review i did http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411567

Crucible 154cm Heat treated in J.buda evenheat 3/16

Edge to edge across the top 3 1/2" bottom chisel 2 1/4"
4" Tall , handle is 4" long 1 1/8 tall 3/4" wide
Orange G-10, Black tan G-10 Moon glow luminescent Held in recess of handle by 880 nylon cord wrap
intergrated lanyard with loop for clip or tying into.

The holes helped lighten it and i suppose it could be lashed to a staff or pole if need be

The bevels are 0 degree and the hollow ending edge is .015 thin and very sharp.....afraid it is to thin to be durable.

The angle of the 0 degree edge's make it very easy to cut, keeping the wrist inline and behind the knife and they are very stout. It fills the hand ( pic below) pretty nice but it needs some refinement so i will continue to work it.

The logo is intentionaly put on backwards to denote proto, i also did leave some scale pitting Really did not feel like spending the time its a good deep pit plus its a proto to be used anyways, and over marked on the logo no big deal

Thanks for looking and comments welcome

SAR













 
An interesting design. I think it would look better without the pitting.

By the way, I really like your Hornets.
 
Well it is kinda rough but it could be improved upon as always, i even used to U-Tu in the constuction cutting with the flat side against a straight edge did nicely

The attachment piece is drilled to accept large or small tech loks, and can be position horizontal, vertical, and at angles plus one could slide it on a belt if the tech lok is not desired at all. The system can be removed if it is going into your pack.

Decided to tap and thread a piece of gerber sharping rod , it is fasten to the back with 2 allen 6/32 ss screws.It can clean the edge up and in a pinch you will at least have a sharp tool

I wanted to intergrate this firestarter i have had and it works pretty cool it will not fall from its nest held fast by velcro and a small lanyard of 880 cord.Simply use the knife to shave some magnesium into your tinder strike the flint and depending on you fire tinder you should be in action.

The U-TU will not fall out the lock up is the best i have ever achieved using kydex, After the first press i went back heated up the holes from the back side and re-pressed using a marble so the shape is somewhat uniform.The Draw is positive and does not hang up. You can also rock the knife to one side or the other and the draw is silent. The return to the sheath has a nice kydex click.

I do not know what qualifies a sheath to be coined survival but if i was lost or as rangers say very miss-oriented the 2 things that can improve you odds would be a stout knife and some form of fire. It can and will be improved on with different options in the future.

Thanks for looking and opinions sought as always

sar















 
Keith Montgomery said:
An interesting design. I think it would look better without the pitting.

By the way, I really like your Hornets.
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Only you would comment on the pitting, really is your style.....used to it by now.......i said its a proto


sar:confused:
 
I like the design, i don't know how it would work in the field though. Maybe some field use by an experienced outdoorsman could be benificial. I would include a wristloop so you can dangle the knife on it so you can use both your hands.
I like the quality of the work. My only drawback is that it looks like some sort of push dagger making it difficult to explain to the law.
 
ranger0468 said:
Only you would comment on the pitting, really is your style.....used to it by now.......i said its a proto


sar:confused:
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OK, I was not going to squeak, but you are being rude to Keith, so, hang on. He is mild mannered compared to many others, like me or Joss.

1. Most of the prototypes that I have seen are good enough to sell "as is". This one is not. Keith pointed it out. You don't like it? Post over in the "Knifemakers Forums". There, they will publicly say great things about your work, and PM you critical points.

2. I hate chisel grinds, so this does not appeal to me, nor does the two colors of scales, and the cord on the top. It looks hodgepodge and thrown together.

3. The sharpener on the sheath, firestarter and glowing plastic inserts are all good ideas, and I like them. You could also glue/screw a CBN coated plate to the back of the sheath, between the body of the sheath and the Tek-lok for sharpening.

4. I am sure that the "tactical groupies" will really want this one. It isn't like they have anything else better to do/buy, but in general, here in the Custom Knife Forum, we tend to expect a little more than this. I personally grade it as a "C"(average).

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
ranger0468 said:
Only you would comment on the pitting, really is your style.....used to it by now.......i said its a proto


sar:confused:
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I was thinking that maybe the pitting was something you were considering leaving on there in the future. You know, like a hammered finish that some people do.

If you don't want a critque, then don't ask for one. Obviously when you posted "comments welcome", that was BS.

Edit: If I had read your original post more carefully I may well have picked up on the fact that the pitting is only there because it is a prototype.
 
Hey Ranger! I like it. It's unique, the more I look at it, the functions I could get out of it. My Compliments.........
 
Once again I came over to post something and when i post back get slammed sorry to offend you and if you do some searching this is not the first time me and keith have had a run in. So guess there is no joking over here sorry...becuase if you read my post thats how i wrote it.......well i think i have better things to do and could spend my time better servered elsewhere

Waiter check please:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

sar
 
Keith Montgomery said:
I was thinking that maybe the pitting was something you were considering leaving on there in the future. You know, like a hammered finish that some people do.

If you don't want a critque, then don't ask for one. Obviously when you posted "comments welcome", that was BS.

Edit: If I had read your original post more carefully I may well have picked up on the fact that the pitting is only there because it is a prototype.
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Hey keith The last thing i want is to pick a fight, I guess in my 14 month's total i have been making knives, I still have things to learn , I did not realize things are graded or recieve a grade( that proto is sold and orders for 20 are on the books some cops a farmer a coulple of SF guys at work so Mr Cold steel cutter there are your tactical groupies) so i guess maybe i should try harder and really posted in the wrong place so my bad on that one. You cannot please all the people all the time. But really i have had a hard time in the blade forum so when my susricption is up i will be out of your Guy's hair and well you can read about my stuff in the magazine's.Take care

sar
 
I wasn't trying to give you a hard time, or make you feel unwelcome here. I was only giving you my honest opinion.

I have seen members here question why more honest criticism isn't given on this forum. They wonder why all the comments are so positive, even when there are obvious problems with a knife. It is because so many makers that ask for comments on their knives take it so personally when the comments aren't positive.

It's too bad that your experience here at BF has been unpleasant.
 
You are correct honesty is the best policy Take care keith maybe see you over at JD'S

sar
 
ranger0468 said:
.....I did not realize things are graded or recieve a grade( that proto is sold and orders for 20 are on the books some cops a farmer a coulple of SF guys at work so Mr Cold steel cutter there are your tactical groupies) so i guess maybe i should try harder and really posted in the wrong place so my bad on that one. You cannot please all the people all the time. But really i have had a hard time in the blade forum......
sar
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1. As I wrote, I would have kept my yap shut, but you were being rude to Keith....sort of uncalled for, but I did not realize that you had a history. Sorry to have jumped the gun, as it were.

2. You should be asking yourself WHY the Cold Steel Imperial Tanto is my favorite knife. I actually cut with a Bailey Bradshaw katana these days, more than any other, but I DO cut with a Cold Steel katana, frequently. It needed a $500 new handle to work ideally, but it really cuts like the dickens, and will not bend. I like that in a sword.:D

3. I AM really sorry that you have had a hard time on the BladeForums, and although it may not seem like it, your presence is appreciated, as is your posting pictures of your work. I hope you stay.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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