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OK,

So I'm puttin my money where my mouth is.

Never needed SAR, neither have any of my close relatives,

BUT

They are a great bunch of folks and I appreciate their service. There are a LOT of SAR guys and probably gals on this forum, so lets hear some stories of rescues that ended well.

I will start off with a story of my own, but I am NOT a SAR member and do not profess to be.

Just in the right place at the right time.

Me and a few of my friends went on a spring canoe trip. Small river but moving fast because of rain. We stopped at a little bend in the river for lunch and a family was having a barbecue. While we were eating lunch, a little girl with water wings was playing in the waters edge. Then got deeper, and DEEPER and finally, the current caught her. The family was oblivious. My friends were oblivious. Out of 10 people, I was the only one that noticed. I am a decent swimmer, but not the best swimmer and it took me every ounce of energy to swim downstream, grab that 3 year old girl and pull her back to shore. I was completely exhausted. There is NO WAY she would have made it.

So let's hear some stories of rescue by all of you folks. SAR or otherwise where someone was in mortal danger and you pulled their chestnuts out of the fire.

Carl-
 
Well, I certainly offer you my heartfelt congratulations. Well done on the awareness, the will to act, and the whole not drowning thing. Kudos!

I have never been in such a situation. I have saved my own ass dozens of times, but never someone else's.

All the best,

- Mike
 
I'm just kinda amazed that others are not chiming in.

I KNOW that we spend a bunch of time in the woods and things happen and we have a bunch of SAR and EMT folks in here.

Really want to know some rescue stories.

We can certainly learn from others mistakes.


Carl-
 
This kinda smells like it will end up a flame war, but oh well.

Outside of all the boring stuff I have done while working as a VFF, the rescue I am most proud of came while I was working security at a condo in Austin. The site is an island right on Lake Travis. Across the lake is a county park notorious for drunken kids acting stupid.

Well, one night while on rounds I hear someone screaming. I can't tell if it's just kids being stupid at the park or what so I initially pay it no mind. I reach one of my pools and a resident comes up to me and says someone just got hit on the water. I hand off my flashlight and crawl down the bank to the water so I can jump in. I get out there and there is a kid capsized in a kayak and apparently belted in (new one on me) So I cut the belt and pull him to the bank. His buddies paddle over to help me get him on shore while we await EMT's. Apparently, they were kayaking across the lake at night and someone on a Waverunner creamed this kayak and the kid couldn't get upright.

I cannot recall ever being so exhausted in my life.
 
I'm always prepared to do the right thing, regardless of equipment and money, so there was one situation that seems to stand out in my mind. My new wife and I (girlfriend back then) were driving on a back road during the day time when we saw what looked like a tractor kicking up a lot of dust up ahead on the left side of the narrow road. When we came closer we realized it was an SUV that has rolled over and over about a half dozen times kicking up dirt (it was a field of dirt) and when we pulled over to go help we noticed a lady running around the SUV very frantic (the suburban was upside down). After we parked and started heading over to help (there were about 5 other cars that stopped as well) we noticed her pick up a toddler about 30 feet away from the upside down SUV. I thought at that moment that her child was dead, but much to everyones amazement, he was alive and appeared uninjured and of course scared. She had two daughters in their teens standing there and both were shivering from the rollover.

My wife and I told them to lay down and not to turn their necks, we also told the bystanders (there were about 20 people standing around waiting to see what to do) to hold their heads still to prevent any injury. The mother was cradling her small son and rocking while sitting on her knees. She was very worried for his sake and we noticed blood trickling from her left side right at the bottom of her ribs. I asked to take a look at it and it seemed to be a puncture wound. A hole about the size of a 50 cent piece, just there, it wasn't bleeding at all compared to what I would have expected. I suppose since she didn't notice it and was focused on her son the bleeding just wasn't happening. An off duty paramedic stopped by and rushed over. He asked if anyone had supplies, and for once my first aid kit was used for something other than cutting my hands while sharpening :o I ran to my car and rushed it back to the off duty paramedic and he proceeded to put on the gloves from it and started inspecting everybody. He then had me hold her neck still because she kept looking over at her daughters and the suburban. After 15-20 minutes, the ambulance showed up and they put neck braces on everyone and called it a day.

Now I was just doing what I would hope someone would do for me; checking to see if everything was okay, and then doing something about it. This is the closest thing I can think of to an EMS and/or SAR situation where I was involved. I'm sure there was another time or two, but this one stuck with me.
 
Are you guys freakin kidding me?

All the bravado and nobody has anything to contribute?



Carl-

You only gave people a little under an hour to respond :p


I have never really saved someone elses life before. There was onetime i was out on the trail and found a female hiker with her boyfriend stopped on the side of the trail. The girl had roled her ankle and the boyfriend didnt know how or didnt have anything to help her. All he could do was console her. I pulled out a tensor bandage, wrapped up her ankle and helped shoulder her with her boyfriend back to the parking lot.


Not really saving someones life but I guess it could have been a rough day if i didnt have a spare bandage as i passed by. :)
 
most of my searches have been under Code Yellow (missing patient) conditions when i worked in BC's health care system. One was a patient from the PAU (psych assessment unit) who smashed a security film window on the third floor and threw himself out. He lived, had broken arms, glass and window film cuts, and massive bruising. we found him in the woods outside the hospital.

Most of my searches were line searches *, one stands out, the search for Heather Thomas. Hundreds of us formed lines and scoured Vancouver to Chilliwack and swept every inch of ground for clues. We recovered 9 firearms, and tons of garbage. We scoured golden ears park, but not as far as where Heather was found (weeks later by a hiker).

Have been on the search for a local mountain biker, later found dead on seymour mountain (suicide).


* these were searches involving the general public, who were guided by one or two SAR and RCMP per group of public volunteers.
 
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Are you guys freakin kidding me?

All the bravado and nobody has anything to contribute?



Carl-

I'm going to hold a conservative position on that because privacy is a primary concern to me.

A couple of years back on a different forum a few genuine SAR guys and I were discussing the exploits of bloke X. X is very well known self-publicist in the US and his testimonies to his tracking skills and persons he has apparently recovered during SAR type activities are legion. He has made a quite a bit of money by biggin' himself up like that. Here's the crunch – those guys said there was absolutely no record of him ever having done anything like that within the SAR community. Basically, they believed him to be a liar and it was touch and go because of the profit he'd made on the strength of that whether he was in fact a criminal.

I don't know how your systems work in the US, but I am aware how publicly available service records and Stolen Valor type stuff is there. On that, it could well be that some people don't want t'internet folk being able to identify them and ferret about in their data. Some people are excellent ferrets given the smallest toe hold so I can totally understand any reluctance to come forward.
 
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Have been on the search for a local mountain biker, later found dead on Seymour mountain (suicide).

What happened with that? never heard the ending. Where was he found?

Lets see... Don't really have any particularly amazing stories. Came across a fellow who had bailed off a large A-frame biking on Seymour and broke his ankle and was hobbling down the trail with a friend. The ankle was quite visibly broken. Very swollen and bruised along the inside. A bad sign as the tendons there are stronger then the bone. They had already called help, but were still for some reason trying to get down the trail. I reasoned with him to stop, 5 minutes of time saved is nothing of consequence for a broken ankle and the danger of injuring it isn't worth it. Put a Sam Splint on him, wrapped it up nicely and went off down the trail searching for search and rescue. There are a few shortcuts that can be taken to get to where he was, but they only knew what trail he was on so I found them and led them back to him and then went on my way.

I miss my SAM splint. They make excellent pillows.
 
You only gave people a little under an hour to respond :p


I have never really saved someone elses life before. There was onetime i was out on the trail and found a female hiker with her boyfriend stopped on the side of the trail. The girl had roled her ankle and the boyfriend didnt know how or didnt have anything to help her. All he could do was console her. I pulled out a tensor bandage, wrapped up her ankle and helped shoulder her with her boyfriend back to the parking lot.


Not really saving someones life but I guess it could have been a rough day if i didnt have a spare bandage as i passed by. :)

I am always glad to have my kit on me when I go hiking. I get to be the superhero alot it seems. I always come across someone who needs something I have. Typically, mom and dad take little Johnny hiking and he falls and gets a cut, scrape, or something and they have nothing. I set them up with one of those individual-sized antibiotic creams and a Band-Aid. Hooray! Crazy hiker with all that crap in his CamelBak saves the day again!!
 
Sorry about the one hour thing, just figured we had a lot of experiences and that people would jump right in.

Anyway, very cool stories.

Thanks.
 
I've been involved in a number of missing persons with the FD and none of them turned out good, except for one. I was assigned to the water rescue unit, so most of the searches we did were on the water. They varied from jumpers off a local bridge into the harbour to people wandering off around the water. Being that we're situated in an area where two rivers converge into a bay where they flow out to the Bay of Fundy(largest tides in the world), it was very rare to find anyone alive. We did find one woman who had taken a bus from Boston to Bangor ME. and then from Bangor to our city(if memory serves). From there, she took a taxi to one of the rivers, where she was spotted by a number of carpenters building a house nearby. They stated she set her suitcase down, took her clothes off and went into the water. It was fairly early in the summer, so the waters were still a bit cool. The carpenters called 911 after they noticed her suitcase during a break still being there, so we were discpatched. From what I remember, it was quite a time from when she was first seen and us being dispatched(maybe three hours), and we didn't even know if the woman was still in the water other than the fact her belongings weres still there. Where she went in the river is probably 2.5km across with a fairly easy current, but is still affected by ocean tides, so we had to estimate where she might have ended up. The conclusion on the boat was that she must've gone up river with the flow due to tide, but figured she must be on a beach . As result, we followed the shore a few km then went to the other side and did the same with no luck. We followed SOPs and continued with grid patterns and while out in the middle of the river I spotted something against the reflection of the water. I was at the helm and headed in that direction(maybe .5 km away) One of the other spotters saw it as well and got to the bow and kept pointing at the object. Our thoughts were that it was likely a piece of driftwood, but as we got closer, piece of driftwood was in fact, a head of hair, just barely above the water.
We had found her, exhausted and suffering from hypothermia, but alive. She had tried to commit suicide in the past from what I later found out, but have no idea why she ended up in our little part of the world.
On a side note, one of the guys working on the unit that day(the first one in the water after attempts to get her to take a ring failed), had many demons himself and ended his life by jumping off a bridge a couple years later. And while he was only discovered about a month after, we spent about three days searching for him. Sad twist.
 
I think the most helpful thing I've been involved with was an accident that happened just outside my house about a month ago.

We live on a pretty busy 4 lane road, and there is a bank right next door. I'm not really sure what happened, but I heard a sound outside, wandered out to see what it was, and discovered a smoking car. My mom and I (she was already outside and saw the accident) rushed over to see what we could do, luckily there was a woman already there with basic training, and an off duty police officer showed up within minutes. The car that we helped with was carrying an older woman (~70 I guess) and her granddaughter (~12). We brought out my sleeping pads and a couple of blankets, and our deck lounge chair. We got both reclining so that they wouldn't move any more and everyone could get a better look at them. We also brought out ice and rubber gloves for the bruises and so that the people that were there could inspect the victims. The EMTs showed up shortly and took care of them further.

There was another group of people at the other car, I didn't even get the chance to get over to it.

Apart from that, I haven't really had the opportunity to help (which is a good thing because that means there haven't been that many bad things happening, I guess). I am ready and willing, however.
 
Are you guys freakin kidding me?

All the bravado and nobody has anything to contribute?



Carl-

I cant help but wonder if this is just a thinly veiled attempt to troll into another argument, after you just spent half a post bashing volunteers for daring to vent.

But oh well Ill bite:


I have training in wilderness SAR but as I live in a suburban/urban area I don't get a chance to practice. I was happy last fall when I had a chance to organize a successful search for a lost child at a Haunted woods tour in a semi rural area. I was not on duty, but used some of my Sar knowledge to organize a brief search that ended finding a sleeping 9 year old with an Ipod in his ears under a tree.
 
I don't have any SAR experience, but I am taking a CERT class. We are almost halfway through the class and will be discussing light SAR next week...
 
No trolling.

Truly wanted to start a positive discussion about rescues that ended well.

That's all, nothing more.

Carl
 
Hmm,

I will contribute to this thread under the assumption that all involved play nice, me included.

In my personal SAR history there have been a mixed bag of stuff, I also do rescue work professionally for various industries. The difference between hobby SAR and pro rescue work is there are consequences to peoples actions who get themselves into trouble on the job. Workers are held accountable for not following safe procedures. Maybe this is why I get frustrated with the public on volunteer searches as there is no accountability other than whatever punishment they have dealt themselves.

I am not going to go into all the cases I have been apart of, maybe a book is in order down the road. I will share some situations however.

Typical operation;

2 young mountain bikers in mid fall set out for a nice ride. They get turned around on a trail system and are lost. Night falls, sub freezing temps set in and they are caught with spandex, one lighter and a cell phone. We get the call at 11pm. We show up at 11:30 I get assigned a team and after checking their gear and briefing them we are off (midnight).
This search was interesting as the area we were in was recently torn to pieces from a CATII hurricane and most of the trails were fully blown in with fallen timber. Nearly impassable. We proceed on our tasking down one of these trails. After 3 hrs of crawling up, over around and under the blow down we finally get into a clearer area only 400 yards from where we started.

Crawling under blowdown in 3 inches of water with a half inch frozen crust tests ones resolve very quick. We stopped at this point for a break as we were now prehypothermic ourselves and needed to refuel. It was a great night clear sky, stars forever but crisp and cold, after eating and putting on dry clothes we pressed on for about a couple miles with no sign or clues yet.

The lost mountain bikers were in sporadic contact with the CP via cell but not enough to ping the exact location (early in that capability). There were 6 other hasty teams out scrambling around that night and of course we were listening to their progress on the radio, sounds like we had the worst tasking. Not a surprise as the joke is I always get the worst terrain, we could be in city park and they will give me the only swamp portion but thats another story.

We get caught in another section of trail for 200 yards of blowdown which killed another hr. After we exit that jungle gym wall we found ourselves by a lake. We started yelling and then got a call from the cp that they had heard us but did not have our direction.

We dug out some skyblazer flares and started to light up the night sky. Turns out they were halfway around the lake from us. 2 other teams were in the area. We stared to converge on the subjects. We didnt know the state they were in other than they were cold and wet so we put it in high gear and went waste deep in half frozen swamp to cut the angle to them. Soon we were in voice contact.

We made contact at about 4:00 approx. What we found were mid stage hypothermic patients who were in the late stages of shivering and their cell had just died. They had only spandex on. There was no shelter or fire. They tried to light one several times and couldnt. Their fire lighting attempts consisted of trying to light wet half inch diameter sticks directly with the bic (seriously its true).

At this point the EMT in me kicked in and called in 2 seriously in trouble people and we need a helo extract immediately. The call came back this was not possible as all helo's were either down or in use.

While all this was going on I got my 2 team members to start a fire size large and get a shelter up. They got to work with the folding saws and chopper blades and in short order had batonned dry wood and got some tinder going. The 2 subjects said it was impossible to get a fire going in these conditions. The were about to get a lesson the wouldnt soon forget in rapid survival fire building, my guys even used THEIR bic to light it. I got to work cutting off spandex and getting them into dry layers, we all carry spare clothes for the subjects I ripped into their packs and started pilfering what I could. I managed to get them into expensive fleece head to toe as well as a wind block layer, we also carry closed cell foam to insulate them from the ground and conductive heat loss. We managed to stop conductive , radiation, convection and evaporation heat loss in record time, that left respiration and theres not much we could do about that at the time. We had to dress them as all their dexterity was gone and the hallucinations had started. Their pulse rates were shallow and rapid, we were in danger of loosing them in front of our eyes.

Just then another team showed up and I got them to work getting firewood and getting hot food on ASAP. We propped them up by the fire (lunatic pagan ritual size by this time) and kept them conscious, gave them hot liquid jello. We got them into the shelter in thin sleeping bags, reflective blankets, chemical handwarmers in the neck, pit and groin and waited. The call came back we were getting an extract at 06:30.

By the time the helo came calling they were coming out of stage 2 hypothermia into stage 1 but still had heartbreat irregularities. I loaded them into the chopper and took another medic and off we went. Upon landing they were rushed to the paramedics waiting, I did a full medical handover and off they went lights and sirens. The helo made 4 trips back to haul out three teams of three safe and sound but mildly hypothermic themselves. By this time it was quite a production at the CP, family, 3 media outlets and the typical disaster spectator junkies. I dodged media wanting interviews on my way to the CP to debrief police and management team, media is not my thing.

Turns, out during the debrief we found out one of them had blown a tire with no way to fix, decided to take a "shortcut" through the hurricane blowdown. They got turned around and kept going getting themselves into the middle of nowhere. They of course abandoned their $3000 bikes long ago. I got home about 9:am took a looong hot shower and went to work after my nights fun. Afterwards I spent money and time replacing drying repairing and prepping the gear for the next call which came only 3 days later.

They ended up no worse for wear after a day in the hospital. My gear I lent them however, I never got back, another $150 down the drain by an unpaid volunteer (so be it). If they didnt not have a cell phone with them and coverage it would have been a body recovery.

Lessons as I see it:

Poor planning and prep.
Basic gear not taken.
Stayed out too long.
Unfamiliar with area.
Basic survival skills non existent.

Skam
 
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^ you would hate vancouvers North Shore...there is approx 3000+ mountain bikers in peak season.......
 
^ you would hate vancouvers North Shore...there is approx 3000+ mountain bikers in peak season.......

No kidding, bikers get on my nerves (doesnt everyone lmao) as they get to ride in miles and I have to hike it. :rolleyes:. At least lost hikers arent in another time zone generally.

SKam
 
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