scagel style knives

sadiejane

sadiejane

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anyone have links for or suggestions of makers
who create in this style?
one of my personal fav style knives
and of course id love to own an original
but since thats unlikely
another craftsperson who paid homage to that style
would be good too
thanks
 
anyone here know if mr scagels home/workshop were preserved? i have seen numerous knives over the yrs that were made from material found in his shop after his death. does anyone know who owns that land now? are the bldgs still there? or was it eventually sold and who knows what? as buying and maintaining property like that can be tremendously costly....
 
Dr. Lucie is bringing out a book this year on his expierences with Scagel. He had several of his supplies which he has made knives with in his style.
 
Lora Bethke in Michigan forges some very nice Scagel copies but I don't think she takes orders. Dr Lucie is/was her mentor, even her sheaths look like the early Scagels. Her address if you're interested is Bethke forge 13420 Lincoln St. Grand Haven Michigan 49417.

Regards

Robin
 
There's a few for fixed blades. Here's afew I can think of straight away.

Doug Noreen
PJ Tomes
Jim Behring
Mike Malosh
Roger "mudbone" Jones
Ron Welling
R L Smith

Hope this helps.
mitch
 
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thanks for all these recommendations. much appreciated. knew about some of em-but not about others.
does anyone have any more information on the book dr. lucie is putting out this year? dont wanna miss out on that one!
thanks again!
 
I know it may sound weird, but if you want a really beautiful, tough, forged Scagel knife with a wonderful level both in materials (O1, 52100, D2, leather, hardwood and antler) and craftmanship, try and look outside the States.


I´m sorry if this isn´t a very polite answer in an American forum, but we should accept it when realizing that is at the same time the 'world' cutlery forum.

Best regards.
 
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wrote the guys at 2g knives
this was their response

"We have sold out of all but the largest size Scagel style knives
Since the cost of steel and other supplies has gone up so much
We are no longer taking custom orders
Thank you for asking
We are sure that their are others custom makers out their that can work with you on this project
Have a great day
John Greco"
 
Sadiejane - I responded to your PM but wanted to respond here as well. Dr. Lucie is aiming to have the book available at the BLADE Show this year. It will be tight time-wise and if not ready for BLADE it will be very soon after. So, it's imminent.

During the past five years I have examined and photographed (for the book) well over 100 Scagel knives, axes, self-made tools, pots,pans etc. It was one of those situations in life that occurs only once. Nobody but Jim has the credibility to pull all the big collectors together and convince them to get their Scagel knives out of the safe and bring them to me to photograph. Jim is in his 80s now and though very vigorous still, we won't get to have him around forever. So, this book is very significant in a number of ways.

As a result I have acquired a pretty good eye for accuracy in terms of Scagel reproductions and the nuances that are key. Unfortunately, most makers have seen and handled very few examples of Scagel's work and thus they are working with insufficient data - and it shows! This is nobody's fault. It's just that most of the best examples out there (the book will make this plain) live in safes and have not been seen in public ever, or in a very long time. Our hope is that the book will help these and other makers who have an interest in making Scagel style knives.

Thus, if it were me looking for a good Scagel repro/style blade right now, I'd start watching eBay for one of Jim Lucie's knives. He's the best by far at this for reasons I've explained. All the other makers mentioned above are worthy, no doubt, an no criticism is intended here. But hands down, Jim Lucie's knives are at the top of the pile.

Example (my photo of a knife Dr. Lucie made for me):
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And, Sadiejane, I appreciate your interest and enthusiasm about this project and the knives of William Scagel so here's something special for you and the other readers of this thread. This image is one I prepared for the book that nobody has seen until now. It's my personal favorite of all the Scagel knives I've shot. I love the blade profile but more than that, the knife feels so 'right' in hand. That's one thing you just can't get from pictures. You'll notice that over the past 75-80 years some handle material shrinkage has exposed a small gap between blade and guard - everything pulled back toward the pin in the crown stag pommel.
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Just beautiful. Is that one of the knives Scagel made for Abercrombie & Fitch?
 
Those are some beautiful knives. The leather sheath shows some excellent work and looks very appropriate for the knife. Thank you for the exclusive photos!
 
sadiejane said:
wrote the guys at 2g knives
this was their response

"We have sold out of all but the largest size Scagel style knives
Since the cost of steel and other supplies has gone up so much
We are no longer taking custom orders
Thank you for asking
We are sure that their are others custom makers out their that can work with you on this project
Have a great day
John Greco"
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Hi sadiejane
I´m the sheathmaker of 2g Knives,
Maybe you are confused, our signature is not John Greco and we take custom orders. Some of them goes to USA with, at this moment, full satisfaction of our customers.

Best regards

Pepin
 
Humm something is fishy about that Scagel. I dont think its a real one. :)

The Straight line on the blade.
The small tang at point of guard.
The guard tang is only single cut.
The order and pattern of spacers.
The clean deep stamping.

All lead me to believe that it is a good copy or a restored knife.

Just my 2 cents
 
Robert Appleby, who posts regularly on this forum, has put out some very fine Scagel influenced fixed blade recently.
 
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