Scale glue on 110's???

chickentrax

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I took apart an old no-dot 110 tonight, I'm thinking to put new scales on it (the blade isn't all that bad)...what a job... :rolleyes:

I literally had to use another knife blade as a chisel to get the scales off after I removed the rivets...then I could see some black substance that is between the scales and liners...it held so well that some of the wood is still glued to the liners...



This is a no-dot, 3-line, 2-pin [brass] scaled, slab-sided, steel spacered, steel rockerbar pinned 110...with the long chamfer...

(Notice the blade hole...no bushing) :eek:

Anyone know what this glue is, please let us know...If Buck is still using this on the new rivetless 110's, I'll buy one with no hesitation... ;) :D
 
Trax,
Your report makes me feel a lot more comfortable about my custom stag 110 without rivets. ;) ;)
 
Mike Kerins said:
Trax,
Your report makes me feel a lot more comfortable about my custom stag 110 without rivets. ;) ;)
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If you looked with a magnifying glass would you see any visible glue??? ;)

This black stuff scraped off with difficulty...it was kind of rubbery even...sort of flexible... :)

The surface of the brass was very rough..."as cast" I think they call it...
 
What are you replacing the scales with?

The first knife that my grandfather gave me when I was six years old is a 110 exactly like that one (three line, no dot, two rivet, etc.). It's the pride of my collection, and still in wonderful shape considering the age, and that it was given to a six year old.
 
The early ones were glued on. I have heard the old timers talk about working on the 110 line and having "glue up to their elbows" after a days work. I don't know when they stopped using it. We use it today on customs but the standard production 110's do not require glue.
 
Joe Houser said:
The early ones were glued on. I have heard the old timers talk about working on the 110 line and having "glue up to their elbows" after a days work. I don't know when they stopped using it. We use it today on customs but the standard production 110's do not require glue.
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Do you sell it??? Or can you direct me to a supplier of small quantities??? ;) :D
 
The stuff they use on the custom 110's is just good old Loctite. I have a love hate relationship with the stuff. It works fantastic but gives you all of about 3seconds to get everyting where you want it before it sets up. It works well unless you are looking to fill a gap or something. Two flat pieces of material, clamped together with the stuff, become unseperable in very short order.
 
Hi Joe...
If you have a moment, can you let me know if the 110 models with the pins also use the Loctite? I have never taken one apart and am wondering if the pins are truly functional.
Thank you in advance...
Me.
BCCI 1190
 
mfinden said:
Hi Joe...
If you have a moment, can you let me know if the 110 models with the pins also use the Loctite? I have never taken one apart and am wondering if the pins are truly functional.
Thank you in advance...
Me.
BCCI 1190
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Joe already answered your ? in one his post's above. "We use it today on Customs (loctite) but the current production 110's do not require glue." So to answer your ?, yes the pins are functional. They hold the scales on in place of the glue.
 
Joe Houser said:
The stuff they use on the custom 110's is just good old Loctite...
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...<groan>...I don't know if you've been to the auto parts store lately...but there's about a zillion different kinds of LocTite...Red, Blue, Stud & Bearing Mount, etc... :(
 
chickentrax said:
...<groan>...I don't know if you've been to the auto parts store lately...but there's about a zillion different kinds of LocTite...Red, Blue, Stud & Bearing Mount, etc... :(
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The Blue loctite is meant to be used on screws (or whatever) that you may want to remove in the future, so the bond isn't as strong. The Red is used when you want something bonded permanently. Those are the only 2 I've used (on screws only), so take it for what it's worth in regards to knife handles.
 
Mick57 said:
...The Red is used when you want something bonded permanently. Those are the only 2 I've used (on screws only), so take it for what it's worth in regards to knife handles.
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Hi Mick57!

Joe didn't mention Buck changing formulas, so I'm assuming that the black stuff I scraped off is LocTite, too...but which one??? I'm not sure I've even seen black LocTite... :confused:

334dave mentioned he knew what it was, and there was a simple way to remove/break it loose...I'm waiting for him to chime in... :D
 
I've had good luck with Epoxy 2-ton variety. It gives some time if a slight adjustment is needed and it works well to fill any voids. Also, you can add various materials to color it or match it to what you are gluing. As an example, if you were gluing ebony you can add some powdered ebony to the epoxy mix and it will blend in well to get it to look like the scales.
 
Just to bring this thread up to date...Here's my latest WAG... :D

Buckaholic said:
Yep El Pollo, BUT, is it red, blue, black, or rainbow loc-tite?
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You took the words right out of my mush...and not a moment too soon, either... :D

So let's do a little detective work...334dave says he knows what it is, and that it also can be taken right off with the proper remover... ;) And Joe Houser says it's LocTite...

So we snoop around the LocTite site...

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/products/

Looking under Glues and Epoxies, we see only one product has a remover...Duro Super Glue...

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/products/subcategory.asp?CatID=15&SubID=35

As it happens, this is also what was recommended to me by the guys in the Knifemakers Forum here...although they didn't mention that there was a remover also... :grumpy:

So, this is the one that gets my guess as what Buck uses to glue scales on... :thumbup:
 
Dang, Detective ChickenTrax! You're like Cyber-Columbo!!!!
Cool Beans!
So, this should put to rest at least four threads.

Don't bother me...I'm counting hex head turns... :)
Goose.
 
Epoxy is one thing but regular LocTite is Cynoacrilate (sp?) or superglue. Any cynoacrilate can be removed with acetone. I use a lot of crazy glue in my other hobby (which is way too geeky to talk about here) and I can remove it from all kinds of things with nail polish remover which is a weak acetone solution.
 
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