Scarce '02 Commanders?

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Why does it seem like the '02 Commanders are so hard to come by?? I've had mine on order for 2 months and everytime I call the distributor they say that it's on backorder from EKI. Is EKI really that backlogged for this knife?

I'm so eager and so anxious to get my Commander I can barely stand it!!
 
To be honest with you, I just think it is a matter of getting all the older ones out of the pipeline, but that is my opinion. Big D1
 
They've been shipping them for months.

The issue is probably stock rotation. Even if a dealer/Distributor didn't know about the changes to the 2002s, as the knives are dated, thier going to want to get rid of the oldest knives first. Some customers get picky about things like that. Personally I dream of finding a dealer with a drawer full of 1998 Commanders. :D
 
Actually when I ordered mine I didn't even specify that I wanted an '02. I just ordered it and assumed that I'd be getting an '02.

So this distributor (Blueridge) just doesn't have any of them in stock. But if EKI has been shipping them for months then why has Blueridge not received some?
I wish I knew...but I'll just keep waiting...hopefully before Christmas!
 
When it comes to updating versions of knives such as the Commander for the better, dealers and distributors are evidently using the FIFO accounting principle--first in, first out. They just do not want to be left holding the bag of old stock. I know, it really does suck especially when you are wanting to purchase the most recent version.

You are not the first one that has had this same problem finding the 2002 Commander. Good luck on finding one. Big D1
 
Please pardon my ignorance, but what has been changed on the Commander over the years, including the '02? I'm new to Emerson, so I really don't know.
 
actually,

I tried to order some from my distributor over 2 months ago... they are totally out of commanders and said that emerson hasnt been getting them out very fast apparently.

I ended up cancelling the order after 2 1/2 months wait.

david
 
Originally posted by Houndawg
Please pardon my ignorance, but what has been changed on the Commander over the years, including the '02? I'm new to Emerson, so I really don't know.

Good question.

Here is my canned responce on First Generation to Second Generation changes:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The '98 Commanaders were the First Generation. (point of reference only)

In mid 1999 EKI made several changes to the Commander line:

  • *Thinned the liners a hair
    *Thinner the scales
    *Added a second detent to the non-lock liner side
    *Changed to point grind to keep more blade thickness out toward the point
    *Changed from water cutting the blades to laser cutting
    *Serrated the liners (traction grooves) behind the thumb ramp

In late 2000, the blade grind seems to have gone back to the original style.

Most of the changes have been well recieved. However, the overall thinning of the body has met with some . . . grumbling. I too prefer the thicker feel of the First Generation Commanders and would like to see them "widened". ("Wider is better!") I would be willing to put money down that the change was made in the first place to satify customer requests.</font>

Here is the review I did on the Third Generation Commanders:

The “New and Improved” Commander - Feburay 2002

EKI has made several changes to their ever popular Commander line. Some may remember when EKI made changes to the Commander in mid 1999. The thinner the scales, switched from .062 liners to .050 liners. Went from water jet cutting to laser cutting. Added a secondary detent into the non locking liner. Added more traction areas on the spine of the body and changed the tip grind slightly (a change that lasted until about mid 2000, then they went back to the original).

Looking at the new Commander design, one doesn’t immediately see the changes. The first thing to catch the eye will probably be the markings. EKI has added the “Wave” patent number above the logo and serialized them, much the same way the Mini-Commander is. The word “Commander” appears under the left side leg of the logo.

The next thing to catch the eye will be the traction grooves on the body. They have added the “Third Generation” style traction grooves. Meaning that unlike the older versions of the Commander where the traction grooves were cut into the Titanium alone, the new ones are thicker and catch both the Titanium and the G10 ala PSARK and Mini-Commander.

Looking inside we find that EKI added the thicker stop pin that has been incorporated into all the newer designed knives. Nice touch.

In talking to Shawn, EKI’s Production Manager, he says that the blade grind was changed slightly and that the body was changed just a hair. While I didn’t have a second generation Commander handy to compare the two, honestly, I couldn’t eyeball a difference.

The thumb ramp blade serrations are more rounded. Thier about halfway between the original water cut serrations and the second generation squared off ones.

Next I’d point out the screw locations.

One subtle change that I missed entirely was the backspacer. The body actually felt more solid then the second generation Commanders. Looking inside I was that the liners had remained .050 and that the scales didn’t appear any thicker. It was about this point that Shawn pointed out that the backspacer had been changed. It’s actually longer now and fills more of the area that would flex when the knife is really squeezed. Very cool touch!

I guess the next question is "When". Well, I have one in my pocket right now and you can too! Mary tells me that they actually started shipping to dealers last week. Many may not even know there was a change, if your inquiring, remember the word "Commander" right on the blade.

Let me know if you have any questions

John
 
John - your posts here always help me out and I'm glad you're here to help us out with all the questions that get posted about Emerson...
Thanks!
 
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