Schatt and Morgan Heritage series and a couple Queens

silenthunterstudios

silenthunterstudios

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Here's my trio of SM Heritage series knives. The best fit and finish is undoubtedly on the single blade jack. A few problems with the premium stockman and two blade jack, but the two blade jack is my favorite. The main blade on the two blade jack is kind of loose in the half stop position, same for the stockmans main blade. I don't even know if a halfstop is existent for the spey and sheepsfoot blades.

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Next are a few Queens. Both of the Dan Burke collaboration barlows, and a single spring canoe.

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The canoe was pretty sharp, considering it is a Queen, brand new from the store. The barlows were trades with a member here, and were razor sharp when I got them. I have two other Queens, a single blade trapper and a Mountain Man.
 
Queen makes some great knives, but I have gotten a few that were dull out of the box. I hope that the Daniels family can rectify that issue.
 
Some pics, new and old, to liven up this thread...

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Queen-made Northwoods Straight Jack
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I've owned 3 queens and 2 were absolutely dull, I could try to slice into my finger and it wouldn't do anything. I mean seriously they were absolutely dull. That said I still like their knives and would buy another one, but the 2 I have came to me with no edge at all.

The one that wasn't dull was made in 1987 so that might have something to do with it. I personally don't care if the edge on a new knife is super sharp, but the newer queens I've had were exceptionally dull.
 
markksr said:
Out of about 10 over the years, I've only had one come dull.

But the haters will hate... LOL...
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No hate here, just relaying what I experienced. No jumping on the bandwagon either. The Mountain Man and canoe I bought a couple years ago were probably the best edges I've seen from them, pretty damn sharp. I've been looking at what model I want to get next.

Really nice pics by the way. Their bone handles are really striking.

Those Joe Pardue collaborations are high on my must have list also.

Been carrying my Queen honey amber bone canoe at home since I got back from the hospital.
 
Hey Silenthunterstudios, it's great to 'see' you up and around.

I have one of the Heritage Series jack knives and love it. Beautiful and very well made with no obvious F&F problems.

But the nicest Queen I've acquired lately is one of the honey bone fixed blade knives in D2 steel. Incredibly attractive with no quality issues, and I'm surprised they can sell them so inexpensively.

Take care.
 
silenthunterstudios said:
No hate here, just relaying what I experienced. No jumping on the bandwagon either. The Mountain Man and canoe I bought a couple years ago were probably the best edges I've seen from them, pretty damn sharp. I've been looking at what model I want to get next.

Really nice pics by the way. Their bone handles are really striking.

Those Joe Pardue collaborations are high on my must have list also.

Been carrying my Queen honey amber bone canoe at home since I got back from the hospital.
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Didn't think you were hatin'... ;) But over the years I have seen many jump on the "All Queens come dull" bandwagon without ever even owning a single one.

I bought my son an ACBS Canoe several years back and I am still aching to have one of my own. It's just such a classy looking knife and carries so smooth in the pocket...

Maybe a Canoe and a Mountain Man for me next month. Both are very long overdue for me and I stopped buying knives for a little while the past year or 2 so I've got some lost time to make up for. :thumbup:

silenthunterstudios said:
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Really nice pics by the way. Their bone handles are really striking.
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Thank you kindly.
 
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That Derringer and barlow pic is stunning, especially in black and white.

Bob, I can't believe how many Queens I've let go over the years. One was a really nice fixed blade. Thanks for the kind words.
 
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Nice group of knives you have there. I'm a bit envious of your single blade jack, I wish I had picked one up when they were available.

- Christian
 
I saw your signature the other day, I believe that the box said rosewood for mine, I might've gotten ebony depending on how you look at it in the light.
 
Out of all my Queen's my favorites are the S&M Heritage Premium and a birds eye maple whittler. Both were sharp out of the box with pretty much no issues at all. Others though, like my Heritage 1 blade jack, Burke Barlow and a stag Queen City Copperhead weren't just dull, the grinds were way off and needed reprofiling. I'm a noob at sharpening, nevermind reprofiling, and just about have the Barlow where I want it. The Copperhead still has hours of work, and I sorta messed up the Heritage jack since I didn't know what I was doing then. :-(
My other Schatt and Morgans are awesome though, I think my S&M gunstock is my all time favorite, it's just about flawless.
That said, I still like Queen and I'll still buy them, I think I'm getting better at sharpening because of them :D
 
markksr said:
Beauties all! Queen is my favorite brand despite all the complaints...
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I'm glad I'm not the only one. Reading the comments here I sometimes feel all alone. Queen remains my favorite out of the remaining slipjoint manufacturers. Other than the clip point #72 and single blade #73, GEC doesn't make any knives that appeal to me. The proportions of their knives seem off and don't pass the eye test. Case on the other hand has never interested me. Maybe it's the use of hollow grinds in their knives. Perhaps it's the choice to use Tru-Sharp stainless as their default steel. It might even be the gaudy bone scales. All I know is that apart from the annual Tony Bose collaborations, Case doesn't offer a knife that I want.

I have more Queens than any other slipjoint brands, but all of mine have been fine examples of production slipjoints. Maybe I'm just lucky, but my experience with Queen made knives has been positive. And whenever I think of classic looking slipjoints, the only current manufacturer that comes to mind is Queen.

- Christian
 
Well, I've gotten a couple of Queens that had serviceable edges out of the box. That's out of more than twenty and less than a hundred. I've measured edge angles as wide as 75° included, and the best I've personally encountered was 20° on one side and 25° on the other for a total of 45° included. I like the knives but I wish they'd stop vandalizing the blades...excuse me, I meant sharpening the blades...and just send them out ground and polished without an edge bevel. I'd rather start from scratch than having to fix what they've done.
 
I have owned a half dozen Queen knives, plus a couple Queen City branded teardrops, and the quality of materials and F&F have been uniformly very good. The sharpness and edge grinds have been my only disappointment, and that only on the two QCCC knives and one of the Queens. My #06L teardrop linerlock that I have carried so much was nipping the center pin when I got it, but once reprofiled and super-sharpened for me by knifenut1013 has been terrific. A #19 trapper that I no longer own came very sharp and had beautiful scales.

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Another crappy pic, but my Queen MM slipjoint is at the top.

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Hemming and hawing over pulling the trigger on a ACSB cattle king, among others.
 
kamagong said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Reading the comments here I sometimes feel all alone. Queen remains my favorite out of the remaining slipjoint manufacturers. Other than the clip point #72 and single blade #73, GEC doesn't make any knives that appeal to me. The proportions of their knives seem off and don't pass the eye test. Case on the other hand has never interested me. Maybe it's the use of hollow grinds in their knives. Perhaps it's the choice to use Tru-Sharp stainless as their default steel. It might even be the gaudy bone scales. All I know is that apart from the annual Tony Bose collaborations, Case doesn't offer a knife that I want.

I have more Queens than any other slipjoint brands, but all of mine have been fine examples of production slipjoints. Maybe I'm just lucky, but my experience with Queen made knives has been positive. And whenever I think of classic looking slipjoints, the only current manufacturer that comes to mind is Queen.

- Christian
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You're not alone my friend!
 
markksr said:
Out of about 10 over the years, I've only had one come dull.

But the haters will hate... LOL...
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Wow, that's actually offensive ~ as if folks that have gotten total crap from them are making it up. I have a grand total of two Queen knives ~ a Light Hunter Skinner with stag bone scales, and a Copperhead with delrin covers. The sheath knife had a very nice, thin full height flat grind and a decent edge. Due to the primary grind it cuts very well. The Copperhead is a convex grind and about 3x thicker behind the edge than most of my older slipjoints, and the edge was 30* per side. Even with a reprofiled edge that is sharp it doesn't slice well do to the primary grind. Its a shame because the fit and finish was good, and the action and pull on the blade was just about right. However, the primary function of a knife is to cut ~ and this one just plain stinks at that.

I agree with Christian that from an aesthetics stand point Queen's knives really appeal to me. They have beautiful handle materials, and the profile and lines of the knives just screams traditional. I too hope that the Daniels family will get them to consistently grind the blades thin ~ if just the edge angle needs to be reduced I can deal with that at home.
 
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