Schrade 834 Stockman

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winchester73

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Someone enlighten me. I bought a trapper with similar jigging as this knife I just recently saw these two knives with the jigging. I thought all Schrades had fom the late 50's to early 60's was the sawcut delrin.Was te trapper and 834 the only two models that were jigged other than specjail order for other companies. I love the 8OT better than any other but the jigging on the trapper I bought was a nice change over sawcut. I know there was an 834uh but was the carbon steel 834 basically an 8Ot ecept with jigged handles instead of sawcut.
 
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i am not sure here but in a quick look at the price list say 1973 it appears that the open stock knives have different handles that saw cut. there are no photos in earlier price lists but i think they are the same the open stock has different handles than the "Old Timer" knives.
 
Delmas I did an edit before I saw your post. I belive I have a 834UH but the Schrade I saw has jigging on the handles and a bomb shield with schrrade scribed in it. I asked in the above post if the 834 jigged is basically a 8OT wih different handles. The 834Uh looks like an 8OT except with staglon.
 
I believe your discussion could use some pictures.

Schrade USA maufactured all of these knives during the 1970's. They are essentially the same frame at 3 5/16" closed length, with three blades. They featured a clip, sheepsfoot and spey blade. This is typical of a Schrade junior stockman pattern from this time frame. The Open Stock and Old Timer have carbon steel blades, the Uncle Henry has stainless steel blades. The Uncle Henry version started sometime in the 1970s, the Old Timer in the 1960's, but the Open Stock pattern dates back to the 1920's. This was a very popular pattern for Schrade during their long span of existence.


Schrade Uncle Henry 834UH - 3 5/16" Stockman - Staglon (imitation Delrin stag) handles


Schrade NY 834 Open Stock - 3 5/16" stockman - Jigged Delrin handles


Schrade NY 34OT Stockman - 3 5/16" stockman - Sawcut Delrin handles

Schrade also made these with both black Delrin (834B), and yellow Delrin (834Y). As mentioned earlier, the pattern was produced way back into the 1920's with bone stag handles as a Schrade Cut Co, and into the 1940's, 50's, and 60's as a Schrade Walden. There are variations with different blades, some with a punch. These variations will have a similar pattern number usually ending with a different digit, like 832, 833, 835. The Cut Co examples will be four numbers.

Here a a couple of variations to add to the bunch. Both with pen blades.

A Keen Kutter made by Schrade with rough black (833), and a Schrade Walden NY 834 (old 8343) in bone stag

The 8OT, 885UH and 881, all are 4" stockman patterns, again were offered as Old Timer, Uncle Henry, and Open Stock. They are similar in style, blade selection, and features as the 834, except they are all built on a 4" frame instead of 3 5/16".

Winchester73 - In your original post you mentioned your 834 and a trapper pattern. That would be the 293 (Open Stock) and probably a 94OT (Old Timer) the 285UH (Uncle Henry). Their numbering was not as consistent in the trapper pattern. These were all 3 7/8" trappers with a clip and long spey. You will find that many of the Old Timers and Uncle Henry knives existed first as a traditional Open Stock pattern.
 
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Hawk the open stock is the one that I came across that I had never seen before. This is my duh factor of the day. What is open stock. As I said I have always been partial to a n 8OT but the 834 looks much better than the saw cut delrin. Were that not produced in the quantity as the sawcut. I live in the same state as Michael and don't ever remember seeing one, only the sawcuts.
 
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For lack of an official definition, "Open Stock" was Schrade's label in the catalogs for "some" of the pocket knives knives that were not Uncle Henry or Old Timers. I don't think they used that term prior to the Old Timer and Uncle Henry years, even though those types of knives were most of their "stock". I agree the jigged delrin is more attractive than the Old Timers or Uncle Henry. Every bit the same quality. Only the handle material is different. The term "Open Stock" has nothing to do with a Stockman knife.

Look on the Price List pages of this catalog listing for an example of "Open Stock" knives.

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/Catalogs/images/1973-CATS.pdf

Here is one of my favorite "Open Stock" 881 patterns
 
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When a company issues a new pattern, as cutleries, china & silverware companies are wont to do, they don't necessarily get rid of their old "stock," or the tooling; they continue to keep it "open."
 
Delrin wasn't available until 1960. We don't know what the predecessor plastic was. Or at least I don't. George Schrade used a type of styrene.
 
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