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There is a knife on the bay right now. 6589126932 I am only mentioning it since it is an example of a subject which has been brought up before however it is a classic example. The Knives made by the Walden knife company are quite sought after. This company started in 1870 and was in business until around 1924. Please do not hold me to the exact dates since I have no intention of looking them up. This original company was started as a CO OP by disgruntled cutlers who worked at New York Knife just a bit up the river on the Wallkill. These were always referred to by the locals as the upper shop and lower shop ( just another useless bit of trivia ). In fact the Cutlers left New York Knife over not being allowed to play ( a then new game called baseball ) at lunch. Colonel Bradley the owner of NYK felt it was not dignified or gave a bad image of the plant and workers so after a heated game he forbade the practice. The cutlers who were of mostly English and German heritage. Voiced there ( vociferous ) opinions ( told him to go to HELSINKI ), on his decision and started a new company.
All this being said the reason for this posting and showing this knife is to point out that the practice of placing an old brand name ( which is legally purchased as IP intellectual property ( ie copyright, patents ect ) is not a new idea. The knife in this ad was made on contract to the owner of this brand name by SCHRADE some years ago ( I believe in the 80tys ). I am only guessing but I believe this very well could have been a Jim Parker enterprise ( may he rest in peace ) . Say what you will Mr Parker could sure sell knives. I believe this marking now belongs to Smokey. When these knives came out they were recognized as new Schrade contracts, as time has gone on some people do not realize this and look at this knife and its pristene condition and believe they have found a rare prize. The original Walden knife CO never made anything handled like this knife. The seller started the knife at 99 cents and his ad is correct. The knife is now at 23 dollars ( whis is about twice what these brought when this fact was common knowledge) with three days to go. It will be interesting to see where it ends it makes one wonder if the bidders realize what the knife is. Do not misunderstand me it is a decent enough knife however the point is that time often forgets the actual points of history. This is exactly what imports are hoping will happen as the brand names they assimilate become associated with the original products. This happens in many fields is it good is it bad I do not know. I suppose that as long as the item is known to be a remake or new firm it is not a bad thing. I do not personally like it but as I am continually finding out I cetainly cannot change the way of the world, however I still have the right to remark on it. SO FAR. I bring this up only because I felt it to be a classic example of this point of information. LT PS there are several of these old tang markings that appear like this Phoenix and Honk Falls are two that immediately come to mind.
All this being said the reason for this posting and showing this knife is to point out that the practice of placing an old brand name ( which is legally purchased as IP intellectual property ( ie copyright, patents ect ) is not a new idea. The knife in this ad was made on contract to the owner of this brand name by SCHRADE some years ago ( I believe in the 80tys ). I am only guessing but I believe this very well could have been a Jim Parker enterprise ( may he rest in peace ) . Say what you will Mr Parker could sure sell knives. I believe this marking now belongs to Smokey. When these knives came out they were recognized as new Schrade contracts, as time has gone on some people do not realize this and look at this knife and its pristene condition and believe they have found a rare prize. The original Walden knife CO never made anything handled like this knife. The seller started the knife at 99 cents and his ad is correct. The knife is now at 23 dollars ( whis is about twice what these brought when this fact was common knowledge) with three days to go. It will be interesting to see where it ends it makes one wonder if the bidders realize what the knife is. Do not misunderstand me it is a decent enough knife however the point is that time often forgets the actual points of history. This is exactly what imports are hoping will happen as the brand names they assimilate become associated with the original products. This happens in many fields is it good is it bad I do not know. I suppose that as long as the item is known to be a remake or new firm it is not a bad thing. I do not personally like it but as I am continually finding out I cetainly cannot change the way of the world, however I still have the right to remark on it. SO FAR. I bring this up only because I felt it to be a classic example of this point of information. LT PS there are several of these old tang markings that appear like this Phoenix and Honk Falls are two that immediately come to mind.
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