Schrade CUT.CO. Fixed blade photos.

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G'Day, Whilst Schrade Walden Fixed blades are still available in reasonable numbers I find the 1904 - 1946 Schrade CUT.CO. Walden N.Y. Fixed Blades much more elusive. Originally bought as users they undoubtedly saw more action than a lot of the folders. These photos are of a Schrade CUT.CO. 385.The impression is of a very solid knife with substantial blade with unusually long swedge.Greater attention to decoration detail like the brass spacers in the leather washer handle,screwed pommel with brass locking.This knife has a similar length blade to later Schrade Walden/Imperials like 144L,H-15,Imperial Utility Hunter and Bowie Hunter however none are identical and quite dissimilar.
The other photo is <I believe> a S.C.CO. another Schrade Cutlery CompanyTang mark possibly much older with bone handles.
Have other members got photos of fixed blades from same period to put up?
 
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Nice! I've never seen Schrade Cut Co. hunting knives illustrated in either a period catalog or ad, or in a collector's guide. So I have no idea as to what patterns they eventually made, or when patterns were introduced and retired.

SCC, like Dwight Divine & Sons (Later Ulster) was primarily a producer of pocket cutlery. Perhaps some of these were made for them by another cutlery such as Remington, MSA, Union, or Case. Or not. The only pattern I have seen which is possible to roughly date was, I believe, a SCC #360. It was a knife patterned after Webster Marbles Woodcraft which was design patented in 1916, so unless the SCC was actually made by MSA, it postdated that patent. And it goes without saying that the SCC sheath knives predate Albert Baer's purchase of the company in 1946, also most likely the WWII era of 1941-1946. Restrictions on materials for knives such as these for the civilian market predated America's official entry into the war by a couple of years and weren't immediately lifted at the war's end in late 1945.

The Outers style may be earlier, but again, without some sort of reasonable documentation, the best we can say with certainty is that they are circa 1916-1941 (though the Outers style was out of style by those latter years).

My photo files are currently unavailable to me, but the few SCC sheath knives I have found are surely not representative of what was made in those first forty years the company was in business, as your knives prove! Thanks for posting these!
 
You're right Codger there is precious little written material on the SCC Fixed Blades and I was hoping one of the Old Schraders might be tempted to reply re who actually manufactured them.
As Mr. Levine would say...'.read the knife and not the tang stamp'!! <you twit>. Looks more Marbles than Schrade to me....
I found an old Imperial with a similar pommel. <That Imperial I believe came 'off the wall' and is the longest of any of the Imperials I have.>
 

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I am leaning toward these having been made for the Schrade brothers by Kinfolks of Little Valley, NY (1927-1957). Compare and share? The construction and pattern details look near identical to me.

Michael
 
I have a Schrade Cut Co # 395 ,it looks identical except it has 2 black spacers with a red one between. They seem to be very hard to come by. I have 6 or 7 Stagbrand and Schradebrand tang stamped,but the #395 is the only Schrade Cut Co. i've gotten.
 
The SCHRADEBRAND and STAGBRAND, as I am sure you know, were made by George Schrade and Boker U.S.A. when they briefly owned Geo. Schrade Cutlery. I've only ever seen eight patterns of those, exclusively smaller "bird and trout", and they don't much resemble the SCC sheath knives I have seen. Can you show a picture of your 365? Is it the Woodcraft pattern with aluminum mushroom pommel?
 
Thanks, i am aware about the G. Schrade knives. My Schrade Cut Co. fixed blade is #395 and is 8 inches overall and is the woodcraft pattern. Sorry i'm not set up to do the picture thing yet, but i'm working on it.
 
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And a Kinfolks 380.
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Veeerrryyy interesting..Even the Kinfolks sheath looks similar and I believe my sheath is true to my knife.The cross guard and black spacer on the 380 is a dead ringer for mine.
Mr.Menace why not email your photo to Lrv and I'm sure he will post for you,as he did your 'Corner' photos...
P.S. Codger ...are you going to answer my history class question in previous thread???
 
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...P.S. Codger ...are you going to answer my history class question in previous thread???
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No. I'm giving the rest of the class time to come up with the answer. You know I know that you know I know. You know? :D

Come on guys! Dig just a wee bit! The info is around!
 
Spacer colors and sequences were nearly infinitely variable on SFO's, as we have seen with the Schrade Walden and Schrade Craftsman knives. Kinfolks was formed by Case and Cattaraugus to make the sheath knives for those two pocket cutlery companies. I believe the President of Kinfolks was Jean Case from circa 1925-1931 and you will see some of the Kinfolks knives branded with his name, Jean Case. Also worthy of note are the three digit pattern numbers on both Kinfolks and SCC sheath knives. Hmmm...
 
Nice Larry, I've seen a couple of the leather handled Cut.Cos, but that's the first outers I've seen, great finds! Michael, nice observation re. the Kinfolks connection!

Eric
 
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