Schrade Grafillet Fillet Knife Research

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The first knives I found mentioned as specifically “fillet knife” is the Imperial 839, found in the 1974 Belknap Hardware catalog.

Imperial Diamond edge stainless professional fish fillet knife measures 11 inches overall with 6-inch flexible blade.
Hardwood handle is oversize and secured with stainless rivets. Non-organic wrap-around sheath won’t crack or split, even in salt water use.
Each knife is on an individual hang-up display card.
C7-839...........Each 3.95.....12 in box; wt box 4 lbs.


The same catalog has ads for fillet knives from Rapala, Carvel Hall, and Western, so it appears that the early 1970's is when the long thin bladed stainless fish fillet knives became fashionable.

It is no wonder that Imperial Schrade added an entry to this genre of knives. Previously, their domination of the fish knife market was focused on the familiar “toothpick” fish knife, popular and copied then and to this day by many companies. I am not sure how old the Dexter design is, but it also was a “fillet” knife of sorts, and was sold under the Sears Ted Williams signature for several years.

One must also remember the hunting-fishing knives known as the “bird and trout” knives, originating with the George Schrade Stagbrand and Schradebrand knives of the ‘late ‘30s‘40s-‘50s, and then the Schrade Walden 140/141/142 etc knives, and the shell handled Imperial fixed blades with dual bolsters, all of which were used by generations of fishermen before the fillet use specific knives became in vogue.

Aside from the aforementioned knives, the first fillet knife appearing in the mainline Schrade catalogs was the Staglon handled 167UH Steelhead in 1982, 12" overall with a 6 3/4" Schrade+ stainless blade, and listing for $24.95. Introduced the same year, though shortened versions of what we now recognize as classic fillet knife style, were the 7 1/4" (2 5/16" blade) 162UH Wolverine, and the 7 ½" (3 3/16" blade) 164UH Badger. While the 162UH (1982-85) and 164UH (1982-88) were short-lived, the 167UH became the mainstay of Schrade fillet knives through 2004, finally listing for $42.95 in it’s last appearance.

In 1983, the Steelhead 167UH was augmented by a smaller classic fillet shape, the 10 ½" (5 1/4" blade) 168UH Walleye (1983-1989).

Also listed in 1983 was a new idea altogether, the “checkered” textured graphite handle 11 1/2 GF65 Grafillet Bigmouth and 9 ½ GF45 Grafillet Littlemouth, with 6 ½ and 4 ½ blades respectively. These both were discontinued from the catalogs after 1985 and from production after 1986, being only produced for four years, making them relatively uncommon today.

Schrade flyers from 1983 illustrated two types of packaging offered. First was a plastic covered tan package referred to as a “gift package” (GF65PP & GF45PP) with sheaths concealed in the rear, and in shrink-wrapped “Blister packs” (GF65B &GF45B) with the sheaths mounted in front with the knives. Another Schrade flyer (second page of the previous flyer) shows the knives in closeup advertising photo with large descriptive text. “Schrade Super Graphite - The perfect companion for your graphite fishing rod”.

A Schrade dealer flyer from 1983 shows the two knives mounted as a part of the oak framed OC-15 vacuum formed red felted dealer counter display with the 164UH, 167UH, and 168UH knives. A Schrade flyer from 1984 showing both knives declares “Schrade Professional Bass Fillet Knives”, with a line drawing of a bass and “Professional Bass Fillet Knife” etched on the blade.



You can view these flyers full size on the collectors-of-schrades-r.us website.
So far, all of the Grafillet knives I’ve seen were without the etch and most were in the white fold down box.



I’ve not yet had occasion to use the one “lightly used” example already in my collection, always picking up one of the Safe-T-Grip knives which serve as kitchen knives when fish present themselves for cleaning. But with this NIB one for the collection, I’ll give the other one a try and see how well it stands up to their claims.

In production for so few years, there must be some reason why it never found much favor with the fishing crowd. Perhaps there was no deficiency at all in performance or price consideration. Perhaps there was just too much competition in the specialized fillet knife market both from other companies and within the offerings of Imperial Schrade.

In 1985, their last year in the catalog, MSRP was $25.95 for the GF65 and $23.95 for the GF45. This is only an increase of $1 each over their 1983 introductory price. Altogether, production for the Grafillet GF45 totaled 21,000 pieces, an average of approximately 5,250 per year during the four year production. Total production of the Grafilet GF65 totaled 28,700 pieces, an average of approximately 7,000 per year during the four year production.

Michael
 
These are some great fillet's,very under-rated IMO. I've met several fishermen who were very impressed with the design and feel of the Graphites.
Thanks for taking the time to give us their history.
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These two have been in use for over a year now and I still like them more every time I use them.. but I still keep a Steelhead near by just in case.
Thanks Rick
 
These are some great fillet's,very under-rated IMO. I've met several fishermen who were very impressed with the design and feel of the Graphites.
Thanks for taking the time to give us their history.
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These two have been in use for over a year now and I still like them more every time I use them.. but I still keep a Steelhead near by just in case.
Thanks Rick

I've always thought I'd like to catch a fish that warranted the size of a 167UH. I've used the small and medium sized Rapala filet knives for a long time. It looks to me the two "Bass" filet knives sure look like they'd handle the flatter fish like crappie, sunfish, etc. Those shapes take a flexible blade to stay close to the backbone.
 
Great info Michael, thanks. :thumbup:

Upstream,
Looks like you have some good eating there! :thumbup:

My wife does all the filleting in out house. We home can tuna every year. I just can't eat the junk they sell in the store, not even the white albacore. It tastes like cat food when compared to home canned tuna.
When she fillets she uses the old Dexter that she used years ago in the fish plant where she filleted fish, but this year she used a stiff bladed fillet knife I made her. She preferred the thicker & stiffer blade on such a large fish.

Dale
 
until this thread id never even seen one of these knives before. But now I want one bad! anybody got a spare? great info guys as always.-Joel
 
My stash of Stealheads should last me a while,though I would like to add another 168 to the bunch. The one on the top is a factory reject I bought at a flea market for less than $10 almost 20 years ago, it's better then any of those ones you see on the counter in a bucket at the tackle shops. It was my quest for a replacement sheath for that knife that lead me to my current state of knife collecting sickness. If that knife could talk.... oh well.
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I would like to know more about canning that tuna Dale, I think I heard you mention it once before, but we may have to start a new thread for that, I wouldn't want to make all that mess around here.
Thanks Rick
 
Anyone Know Where '' Imperial/frontier 442r & 442f Stainles Fish Fillet Knifes Fit In To The Schrade History Or Do They? These Are White Handled High Poshised Blades
 
06goat,
Those were made by Imperial in Providence, RI. They were discontinued after Schrade & Imperial combined, I think in the late 1970's.

Note: I and many others thought that the Frontier series were made by Camillus for Schrade.
However, Tom Williams (CAMCO), emailed me after a trip to Camillus and said he could find no info that Camillus ever made any these knives. So..........apparently they were made by Imperial like it says on the tang.

BTW 06goat.......Welcome to Blade Forums.

Dale
 
Anyone Know Where '' Imperial/frontier 442r & 442f Stainles Fish Fillet Knifes Fit In To The Schrade History Or Do They? These Are White Handled High Poshised Blades

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/FLYERS/IMPERIALS/knives/Pre-1980/pages/IKCO-77-1.htm
From 1977

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/FLYERS/IMPERIALS/knives/Pre-1980/pages/AR-79.htm
few more imperial fillet knives

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/FLYERS/IMPERIALS/knives/Pre-1980/pages/IKCO-77-4.htm
couldn't help noticing that sharpener - looks like it is not the vintage collectors friend

Thanks again Larry.
 
Id been working on the idea that the folders were made in Providence prior to closing of the plant. They added an entire "line" just to make "lockbacks" and shortly after that the big Frontiers came along. I like you was waiting for Tom to confirm the rumor..
thanks
Larry
 
Id been working on the idea that the folders were made in Providence prior to closing of the plant. They added an entire "line" just to make "lockbacks" and shortly after that the big Frontiers came along. I like you was waiting for Tom to confirm the rumor..
thanks
Larry

There are hints in the Elanco file. Look at the tracheotomy knife pages.

Michael
 
Thanks LARRY , DALE , MICHAEL The web sites show the knives I was refering to . I gess they are a part of the SCHRADE history. Thanks for taking time to reply. THANKS AGAIN -- MONTY
 
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