Schrade Loveless

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venado_loco

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Hello folks, this is my first night to check in here and I did so because I recently purchased a new in box Schrade Loveless. I purchased it because it really looked like a practical blade for deer hunting and it seemed to me that the price was a reasonable, $100. I'd like to get some feedback on the knife, its history and anything else anyone would care to provide. Thanks.
 
Welcome to our forum!

You got an excellent knife there, at a very good price. The Schrade/Loveless was the first big collaboration between a custom knifemaker (Bob Loveless) and a manufacturer. Of course it's a great deer field dressing knife... Loveless was the first to come up with the 'dropped hunter' (his name for the pattern) knife. You'll also note on your knife the two-tone colored rivets, a Loveless standard.

I think the original was released in 1975 (someone please correct me if I am wrong). Such a great design, it was used as the basis for other knives by Schrade, special issues, with different handles. The RL-2, the SCM11, CH2 in the late 70s. All of these are very collectible, selling for up to $150-$200.

The patterne ended it's run as the full sized PH-1 and the slightly shorter PH-2 (the Pro Hunters) made 1991-1995, with black handles, although Schrade had several more special limited issues with other handle styles. Way a popular knive for Ducks Unlimited Commemoratives.

You other guys... what did I leave out?

Phil
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Thank you so much for the prompt and such a complete reply. That pictured is exactly what I bought and now I'm hesitent to use it..! The shape is just picture perfect for my personal idea of the perfect whitetail knife. Thanks again for the info and for the warm reception.

Anyone interested in white-tailed deer might enjoy my personal website where there are over 400 pictures of deer and related fauna.

Deer Hunting in Texas and Mexico
 
Nice knife! I have a PH1 with the black plastic and a PH2 in stag. But those Loveless-Schrades have so far elluded me and my budget.

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
Here is one of the later,dressed down PH1 Pro Hunters. I have seen them selling for about 60 bucks. It's not as fancy but is a very nice knife and fits well in the hand.
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venado_loco, I think our friend Upstream has the right idea. The PH1 is near identical and it is about as close to being the perfect mass produced deer gutting knife.

And hey, nice website. Right in the middle of the Michigan deer season now.

Phil
 
Great web site. Too much to digest in just one trip. Thank you for sharing that with us. We are starting to get some trophy size deer here in Kerr County, but mostly year round feed programs under high fence and some imported genetics. I've got quite a bit of age on me and I still can't get used to a $2500 to $5000 buck. I can still remember the old $150 a gun for the whole season. (That alone dates me). Thanks for coming to our forum and I hope you'll be back.

Paul
 
It's amazing that you can still buy one of these knives for $100.00. That's what I paid for mine 30 years ago and that was a lot of money for a knife back then.
 
Interesting redshanks, the paper that textoothpk showed in the first picture indicates that the retail price is/was $100. I bought another today from the same source so now I too am a "Schrade collector" if two qualifies.:D

I'm glad that the website is interesting to some of you. It has been a labor of love for me for a number of years and sheathmaker I too am a bit long in the tooth. My first deer lease was in 1960 in east Texas and was $87.50 for year around access which included a cabin..! It's gone up a bit over the years. At this point in my hunting career the photography has taken over and has become my "catch and release".

Upstream, the difference between the ones I have and that one pictured seems insignificant on the surface.

BTW, the one I got today is numbered 27XX, does anyone know how many were made in the "limited edition"??
 
venado_loco said:
Interesting redshanks, the paper that textoothpk showed in the first picture indicates that the retail price is/was $100. I bought another today from the same source so now I too am a "Schrade collector" if two qualifies.:D

I'm glad that the website is interesting to some of you. It has been a labor of love for me for a number of years and sheathmaker I too am a bit long in the tooth. My first deer lease was in 1960 in east Texas and was $87.50 for year around access which included a cabin..! It's gone up a bit over the years. At this point in my hunting career the photography has taken over and has become my "catch and release".

Upstream, the difference between the ones I have and that one pictured seems insignificant on the surface.

BTW, the one I got today is numbered 27XX, does anyone know how many were made in the "limited edition"??
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That's a great looking knife. Does your source have any more of these? Wouldn't mind picking one up myself.
 
Mick57, there were but two of the Shrade-Loveless. I'll see if there are any other types of Shrades that he might have. There were a whole bunch of stag handled folders (I don't recall what brands) that came to my source from a fellow that died of cancer several months ago. Many have been sold, however they didn't seem "cheap" to me so I wasn't interested, but I'll just see what is left today and report it here regardless of make.
 
Well the Schrade well was dry. What he does still have are a lot of Case knives, many are stagg scaled. All are new and here are model numbers that will mean something to a Case expert:
5279, 5220, 52032, 52087, 52007, 52131, 5347HP, 1879 Bradford Cent., 1905-1980 Diamond Jubilee, Moby dick in box, Texas Lockhorn, P158-LSSP, P197-SSP, P159-LSSP, 5 or 6 large Case folders that I didn't get the numbers on, boxed sets of 3 knives made by Browning and Gerber (stagg).
 
I have a 13OT which is a drop point design similar to the loveless design.
Any connections between the two knives?
 
It's very likely the 13OT Trailblazer was influenced by the Loveless 'dropped hunter', which Schrade first issued in what.. 1975-1976? As the 13OT was produced from 1978-1980. I'm gonna ask in the custom knife forum what year exactly Loveless came up with this. Here is the thread I have started:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3389186#post3389186

Also, showing the drop blade influence: This Imperial 'Frontier' of 1975 to 1984 thereabouts. I have old ad copies raving about the 'Custom' design of this great Imperial knife. Sorry, this is the second time this month I've posted a pic of the 422 below.

Phil

PS... Derick, I see you are in South Africa. Are Schrades sought after there? Highly regarded? I've seen some excellent Custom made knives from your country.. any mass-produced knives made there?
 

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That A.G. Russell Gerber/Lovless sure does resemble the Lone Wolf Lovelss, that has been around for a couple of years, right down to the grenn micarta.
Lone Wolf offered it in drop point and semi skinner.

Paul
 
venado_loco said:
Well the Schrade well was dry. What he does still have are a lot of Case knives, many are stagg scaled. All are new and here are model numbers that will mean something to a Case expert:
5279, 5220, 52032, 52087, 52007, 52131, 5347HP, 1879 Bradford Cent., 1905-1980 Diamond Jubilee, Moby dick in box, Texas Lockhorn, P158-LSSP, P197-SSP, P159-LSSP, 5 or 6 large Case folders that I didn't get the numbers on, boxed sets of 3 knives made by Browning and Gerber (stagg).
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Thanks for checking it out. That's another one I'll keep an eye out for, although I do have variations of the PH1 & PH2. Nice knives.
 
All interesting. I like threads like this one where we examine and research something in great detail. There are a couple of good responses to the questions I posed in the Custom forum mentioned above.
Thanks Redhanks, and sorry to hijack this thread.
Phil
 
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