Schrade SCHF9, has anybody broke one?

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Until today I did not know this knife existed but after studying it I have found I am interested in this knife. I have watched reviews and this one kind of describes its ability’s without saying a word which is the best review in my book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZelCSBf9CV8

I myself feel it is going to be about equal to a Ka-Bar USMC but much stronger. I am going to get one and put it on a loaner pack for people who want to camp with me but are just starting and has no equipment yet.

Does anybody know the Rockwell C scale hardness on this blade and has anybody actually seen or had one break on you?
 
You'll find many comparisons here at BF and elsewhere on the web between the SCHF9 and the KaBar Becker BK2. The BK2 is a much better comparison than the USMC you mentioned. The vast majority of people here will tell you to get the Becker instead of the Schrade.

The best review I ever found of Schrade (before I bought one) is here: http://www.bushcraftliving.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8992

Also keep in mind that the designers of both the knives I mentioned, Ethan Becker and Brian Griffin, are members here, but you'll find plenty of others who are also willing to give opinions (some more educated than others) on both designs.

There's also a picture somewhere on the web of a 200 pound guy who put the blade of the SCHF9 in a vice and stood on the handle. I don't think breakage will be a concern.

I'm not a steel expert, so smarter people can correct me, but It seems to me that most 1095 steels in that application hover around 58 RC. Some 56-58, and some 58-60.
 
PitchAndMoment said:
I'm not a steel expert, so smarter people can correct me, but It seems to me that most 1095 steels in that application hover around 58 RC. Some 56-58, and some 58-60.
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Yes very true, that is what most try to acheive but in reality some come short. Not to piss off any USMC fans but they advertise their RC is 56 to 58 but I bet in reality it is more like 54.

I like my BK2 and am not saying the Schrade is better, I am just saying I think it is going to be an interesting knife to get. I know it wont chop as well as the BK9 but then again very few can.

My kid just called for me to pick him up so I have to cut this short.

Peace out!
 
Let us know what you think. I believe BF and the rest of the interweb still need to see a well-done cage match comparison review between the two blades!
 
evildick said:
Until today I did not know this knife existed but after studying it I have found I am interested in this knife. I have watched reviews and this one kind of describes its ability’s without saying a word which is the best review in my book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZelCSBf9CV8

I myself feel it is going to be about equal to a Ka-Bar USMC but much stronger. I am going to get one and put it on a loaner pack for people who want to camp with me but are just starting and has no equipment yet.

Does anybody know the Rockwell C scale hardness on this blade and has anybody actually seen or had one break on you?
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The RC has nothing to do with the blade's resistance to breaking - glass has a higher RC than any steel.
 
meanwhile said:
The RC has nothing to do with the blade's resistance to breaking - glass has a higher RC than any steel.
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Glass has a higher RC than any steel, and also has very little resistance to breaking, which is indication of an inverse relationship between hardness and resistance to breaking (let's call it "toughness" for simplicity).

Conversely, it can be said that hardness has a direct relationship with tendency to break, or "brittleness".

Assuming that the above antecents are true, then RC has very much, indeed, to do with a blade's resistance to breaking, and your statement is therefore completely inaccurate.

I would contend, from my rudimentary knowledge of steel, that (excluding certain anomolies such as flaws or inclusions) the equation of RC, heat treat, and composition have everything to do with a blade's resitance to breaking.
 
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