Schrade - Sears Roebuck & Co. knives

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Schrade - Sears Roebuck & Co. Contract Knives

One of the sustaining markets for Imperial Schrade knives has almost always been SFO's (special factory orders) for Sears Roebuck & Company. Dating to 1886, Sears always had a minagerie of items in their "wish book", their annual
catalog. From the earliest days, sporting goods were an important catagory, and helped Sears achieve it's one-time status as the premier developer and marketer of mail order merchandise. By 1908, you could buy a house with all the fixtures, furniture, and every then available convenience. Sportsmen were in awe at the line drawings of J.C. Higgins, Aubry, Peerless and other shotguns, punt boats, nets, tents, hunting clothing, and every conceivable item having to do with hunting or fishing, including knives.

I am not sure when Schrade Cutlery became a major supplier to Sears, but I believe it must have been early in the 1900's. Sears remained an important outlet for Schrade to the end in 2004, though because of marketing changes, stiff competition from mega stores, Sears own fortunes and place in the market were reduced.

Other cutlery manufacturers also supplied Sears over the years, including Camillus. I have a jumbo trapper in jigged bone that came in a gold foil and blue velvet lined walnut presentation case made for Sears 100th anniversary - 1896 - 1986. I have seen Solingen, Germany knives with Sears labeling as well as Buck, Colonial, Victorinox, and Queen knives, among others.

My favorite Schrade patterns are fixed blades and I like collecting the varients and SFO's of those patterns, though I must admit that I ocasionally pick up an interesting stockman or trapper pattern with the Sears tangstamp. While there are Sears collectors out there with an interest in these knives, they are for the most part ignored by knife collectors, allowing them to be purchased many times for less than a Schrade marked knife of the same pattern. To me, the Sears / Craftsman branded knives are a relatively untapped treasure trove.

Early Sears knives made by Schrade retained their factory markings, and later blade etches were added to modify them for Sears sales. Eventually, Schrade began using Craftsman tangstamps on the SFO's. Besides the markings, another unique detail of these contract knives is that often, Sears would comission customized handle materials of wood or jigged bone, upgraded blade steel and special grinds, unique shields, as well as deluxe presentation boxes and special sheaths.

One of the patterns I first noticed, though not yet among my list of collected patterns, was the H15, a military looking hunter with a clip blade, flattened hammer type metal pommel and leather grips. This spurred my interest in Sears knives and I began looking for them in my favorite patterns.

A very early private issue of the 15OT bearing the Patent Pending etch ( and then stamp) had a Ted Williams signature etch shows that it was produced early for Sears Roebuck & Co. It had no other special features beside the leather laced basketweave tooled sheath and insert. Several subsequent Sears issues have been found with CRAFTSMAN USA tangstamps, both left and read from the handle (with earliest non-tooled leather laced tubular sheath and insert), and right read rom the blade tip (with a six eyelet laced tubular sheath without tooling, and finally with the later five rivet tubular sheath). Both had the standard brown sawcut delrin handles with blank nickle silver shield and rivets, and sport a mirror polish instead of the standard crocus finish.

The 165OT pattern was used for Sears Roebuck and Co., bearing a CRAFTSMAN USA tangstamp, normal brown sawcut delrin handle with blank shield, and a black tubular leather sewn sheath with three rivets. An interesting detail was that it had the Walden curved guard. Another Sears issue, the 1976 Bicentennial Craftsman "American Eagle Collection" had a mahogany riveted folded sheath with an enclosure lap. It has the flat faced Ellenville guard, blank nickle silver shield, and came in a russet leather grained box embossed with gold lettering and an "American Eagle Collection" leaflet identifying their name of this model as "Deerslayer". The Sears number for this knife was #21624.

There were three other patterns of knives in this series, one of which was a 41OT Maverick. This knife deleted the shield and used a unique guard comprised of two brass guards sandwiching a tan spacer, and another tan spacer between the handle and the pommel. The tang stamp is "CRAFTSMAN U.S.A." This knife came in a special light brown presentation slip top box with gold lettering, a red lining, and included a special flap top riveted sheath. Sear's number for this knife was #21621, and they renamed the pattern "Sportsman".

A large variety of utility knives, Old Timer and Uncle Henry folder and lockback patterns were sold for many years by Sears, some under the "Old Crafty" shield, some with the "Craftsman" shield, or with an eagle and banner shield, and some with the "Sears" shield. Handle materials could be smooth or sawcut delrin, jigged bone, impregnated wood, stag, or staglon delrin.

Complete model number conversion charts are sorely lacking at this time and it takes a sharp eye and a bit of Schrade pattern knowledge to connect the Sears number with the Schrade number on many of the folders, but it is much easier on the unique blade shapes of the fixed blades.

Codger


 
Here is a knife you might enjoy. it is a solid stainless steel utility ( boy scout type ) knife. it is a proto type rejected by Sears due to cost of production. The original cutler gave it to me. Often the company would give the cutler working on a project a rejected sample they may have created. This knife was just too nice to produce. The handles are thick machined stainless the shield is actually welded on the handle and the eagle and ribbon on it are a gold color in contrast to the silver of every other part. It is hard to impress the sturdy ness of this piece. Sears eventually put out a similar knife but used to Old timer saw cut delrin and I believe the blades were a lighter guage. This was I believe the only one of these made. There was however another rejected version which I gave away some years ago. LT
 
Very informative gentlemen...thanks for the education. :thumbup:

Codger, just to add a bit to your nice narrative...I believe Colonel Tom Dunlap was the first hardware (tools, knives, etc.) buyer for Sears. I think the STA-SHARP stamping was the first knife brand he introduced. He also introduced the Dunlap Brand (how catchy :rolleyes: ) as well as Craftsman, which I believe was started in 1926.

Thanks again to both of you for the history lessons...keep them coming, please. :thumbup: :)

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Nice prototype knife lt! I can see why it was too expensive, even for Sears. It is like a version of their military knife, most commonly seen as made by Camillus. I have several of them and they are as close to indestructable as a knife can get.

Good information Lobo. Thanks. I went to the Sears website and couldn't believe there was not one mention of Ted Williams. They did, however, expound on J.C. Higgins.


"In 1927, Sears hired Arthur Barrows to head the company’s hardware department. Barrows knew hardware and wanted to create a brand name for Sears that distinguished it from other manufacturers. Barrows liked the name Craftsman used by the Marion-Craftsman Tool Company and reportedly offered Marion-Craftsman $500 for the rights to use the Craftsman name on Sears products.

When Sears promoted Arthur Barrows to West Coast Manager, he hired Tom Dunlap to take over the hardware department. Dunlap immediately upgraded the quality of the tools. America had moved into the automobile age and Dunlap recognized that Sears needed a line of high quality tools to meet the new demand. He threw out the big, clumsy, cast-iron hammers and wrenches, and the soft screwdrivers leftover from the days when farmers were the company’s biggest customers.

Tom Dunlap understood the pride mechanics took in their tools and how they meticulously cleaned them each day. To improve the look of Craftsman tools, he added chrome plating to improve the finish, color, and trim on wrenches and sockets. He also added high impact plastic handles on screwdrivers. Dunlap’s former boss, Arthur Barrows did not think it made sense to chrome plate a tool that someone would “slug the hell out of”, but Dunlap’s persistence paid off when sales of the full-polish, reliable, good-looking, and easy-to-clean tools increased six times the next year."

This explains their philosophy of offering top of the line Schrade knives.

Craftsman tools are the standard bearers of quality. As proof, an independent consumer survey in 2001 rated Craftsman No. 1 among all American brands in quality.

Sadly (et tu Brute?) I just bought my last Craftsman power tool. They are made in China now. :rolleyes:

Codger
 
The thanks for the history lesson Codger. That was really interesting. If I had known that a few years ago I would've picked up some Craftsman/Schrade knives long ago. I went into Sears a few days ago and asked if they had any pocketknives or hunting knives. The only had one pattern, a small two blade folder which appeared to me to have been possibly made by Buck. :( bummer!

Great pictures LT! It does look a lot like the Camillus military knife. I have one by Camillus was that says USMC on the side. They are a really solid knife. Too bad your prototype never made the production line.
 
Schrade did make some of those military contract knives. Maybe someone here has one they can post a picture of. Alas, my three are all Camillus, 1966, 1984, and 1996 (I like the year stamps on the spear blade tang!). I keep them hid out different places for when I feel the urge to commit knife abuse. And so far, they have not let me down.

Hit some more Sears stores. I have three still in the clampacks I bought this spring from the store in Jackson Tennesssee. They are all "wondawood" (Schrade talk), or "Laminated hardwood impregnated with phenolic resins, handrubbed polished finish will not shrink, warp, splinter, or absorb moisture".

Come to think of it, they are the only Schrade knives which still carry their full "If it ever fails to give complete satisfaction" warranty.

Codger
 
Codger_64 said:
Come to think of it, they are the only Schrade knives which still carry their full "If it ever fails to give complete satisfaction" warranty.

Codger

The only problem is that they would replace it with a lesser (or worse yet a China) knife :barf:

I found an Uncle Henry Roadie the other day & the lady at the hardware store said, "Wow, it is guaranteed against loss for a whole year!" Then I had to give her the sad news. :(
 
LT, that stainless 'camp' knife is beautiful. Always appreciate seeing your pics of the very rare ones.
Phil
 
I got a bunch of Schrade folders at Sears in Mexico years ago but have never seen one there marked Craftsman, they did have some Kershaws marked Craftsman but lately I have seen no decent quality knives there.

That is a very nice knife indeed LT, I have the Victorinox Farmer (scout pattern with saw) they are a handy set of blades.

I also own a couple of the Camillus USMC all steel knives (one is marked Western) not pretty really and they needed a little tweaking to be right but they get the job done, they are certainly tougher than their official boy scout utility knife.

Luis
 
I know the pictures seem to give the appearance of camillus and similar knives being the closest and easiest relate to, but this knife is much more massive I would say it weighs twice what the Camillus version does. Scales must be at least twice as thick. heavy stainless and if the blades are not of a heavier gauge they at least seem to be. LT
 
Some of my first knives were Craftsman marked, straight from the old Sears tool catalog.

I have one small stockman that is obviously Camillus, although not marked as such. It's a treasure as it was a birthday present from my sister when I was in college and she was pretty much broke at the time. It didn't cost much, but it was more than she could afford. She just knew that I loved knives. That's a knife that will be with me always.

I have a tiny stockman that looks like a Buck. In place of the spey blade is a tiny pen blade.

I have a lock back folder, quite similar to the Schrade LB7, although a bit different in some ways. I never could determine with any certainty who really made it. It always had a really smooth action and I got a lot of good work done with it. I've long since retired it for sentimental reasons, as it was my first decent quality lock back.

My father had one of the same catalog number, but many years older. It's not quite the same, but it looks a lot like a Schrade too.

The last of the Craftsman knives I bought were made by the old Eagle Cutlery (based in Tennessee but made in Japan). Quality was surprisingly good in most cases.

After that, Sears quit selling any knives at all through their catalogs. Of course, eventually their catalogs were history too!
 
Hi this is one of my new knives just arrived last week. Does anyone know what this unusual serial number means, says CS0000


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Tim,

Looks like a Frontier version. Camillus made them. I'd have to guess at the CS.. Nice salesmans sample.
TTYL
Larry
 
Thanks Irv, I was hoping it was made by Schrade as it came from a seller who had a large bulk of Schrade prototypes and samples that he purchased all together. This one came with them.
regards Tim
 
This is one which Mr. Tom Williams, retired historian of Camillus, confirmed for me as a Camillus produced knife. Schrade provided very few knives for Sears after the deaths of the Baer brothers. Here is your knife in a Sears catalog from 1993.


Like Larry, I could only guess at the meaning of CS. Camillus Sample maybe. Camillus Sears. Catalog Sample.

Michael
 
Hi
Sorry to bring it up again but are you guys sure on this one??? I have an old time experienced Schrade Collector friend and seller who I sent this thread his reply was that he believed this one was a Schrade and that CS is likely to stand for Craftman Sample.?????????
Tim
 
Tim,
Line it up next to another LB7. If the bolster angles and the pin alignment match you may have a Schrade.. Its the small front 4th pin that clues me in that its probably a Camillus. I can always be wrong. Its how I learn.
This will be fun
TTYL
Larry
 
Ive Got it right here in front of me! Nope none of pins line up! but neither does my LB7 have 4 pins.
I only just sold another Craftsman as in this pic, it is the 5th knife from right of pic on this link the blade was not flat alll the way from the edge to the back of the spine as this one is, it had a small flat area near spine. you can see the area Im refering to in this link http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o22/timstools/tripodcaseontop001.jpg,
Regards Tim
 
...is the 5th knife from the left a David or Brian Yellowhorse custom.?..sorry to sidetrack...Hoo Roo
 
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