Schrade SQ111 Black Ice.

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The elusive Schrade SQ111 is shown in their 2003 Products Guide and a flyer.
I believe, this knife never made it to production. If it did, were are they now?

I have been looking for an SQ111, for over ten years now.
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I have a SQ222 in my collection.
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Codger,
Once I though I could find the one in the flyer (if it was a real knife)
I mentioned over the years, that I would pay big money for it, if it was ever found.
Your reply, "so don't ask" put an end to that!
I do have an SQ222, and it is almost an SQ111! and the best part about my SQ222; it's in Australia.
Australian Customs do not like that type of knife.
 
So you are saying that you never got an XT4 either? Seems I may still owe one to another of my Mates down there. Perhaps I will finally ship him one... make it a two-fer and let him toss the second to you. Like yourself and the SQ111, it was a knife from the 2004 catalog that I thought I would never see. As I picked up one or more of the 2004 offerings from '04 auction, the XT4 was the only X-Timer that never appeared in the flood of post liquidation knives. But eventually a precious few unground blanks appeared and I nabbed most of the ones I saw - less than a baker's dozen. So there evidently was an attempt to produce them.

But I never found even one finished example. ISC had spread their wings so far in '03-'04 that even by July of that year they hadn't gotten them into production. We tend to forget what was going on behind the scenes there leading up to the forced bankruptcy. Much of the planning and even day-to-day decision making had been taken from ISC's official management. Decisions were being made for them by outside people who didn't know beans about the industry. So it is really a wonder that as many of the newer design knives got produced as did. Alas there was no Baer at the helm to call the shots. One of his first actions when he bought Ulster was to examine every knife pattern being made by the Devines. And to chop the build list significantly. The same was done when Schrade Cut Co and Imperial were acquired. Albert Baer knew manufacturing and he knew marketing. And he knew the rule of holes. That is - when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. The outside "turn around specialists" thought only to dig faster and deeper. The "Space Debris Knives", as I call them, are a prime example. The grand multitude of 100th anniversary issues is another. As if that weren't enough look at the case of getting so deep with one particular customer that this tail began wagging the dog. IMHO, no customer would ever have gotten by with setting such unfavorable terms with Albert Baer.

Ramble on I did. One last note... for an interesting exercise, add up the number of knife patterns offered in the catalogs for each year from 1997-2004. It is an eye opener.

Michael
 
Michael thank You for that reply,

I think Dale has a XT4 blank; and I'm still looking for that SQ111. Ken.
 
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Michael, the knives featured on the Schrade flyers in those final days....were they photoshopped or actual protos...?.....the Schrade Jernigan SSJ1 collaborative designed by Steve Jernigan, and the SDHO5 D'Holder shown on the flyers..same with the Black Ice..were there protos photographed or they simply were never produced?.....I guess if the protos existed they would have gone out with the rest in the Bankruptcy sale...Hoo Roo
 
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