schrade walden 163 serrated

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Dug out a schrade walden with 163 stamped on the reverse of blade and has timber handles..great condition,while not brand new..Have not seen one serrated before.How common are these and are they collectable..Thanks Wade:
 
I have two NIB Schrade LTD Trappers with serrated spey blades. One has pinched bolsters and the other is plain. Both have really pretty polished bone handles. It is essentially the same knife as the old 286Y yellow handled trapper. There is no pattern number on these, only the Schrade LTD. Any way I collect primarily the trapper pattern knives and these were different because of the serrated blades so there they are in the display case with the rest.

Paul
 
wadie said:
Dug out a schrade walden with 163 stamped on the reverse of blade and has timber handles..great condition,while not brand new..Have not seen one serrated before.How common are these and are they collectable..Thanks Wade:
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Schrade knives with the Wonda-Edge are not that common. The patented type serration was revolutionary in it's own way, but it just didn't catch on.
The idea of adding scalloped serrations to one side of a knife blade was patented by Albert H. Baer, USPTO utility patent #2,825,968. The patent was filed in September of 1956, and issued in March of 1958, and assigned to Imperial Associated Companies, Inc. The name “Wonda-Edge” associated with Mr. Baer’s invention was trademarked as well, #72,023,627, in February 1958.


This “Wonda-Edge” feature was used for the next few decades on a variety of hunting knives, pocket knives, and horticultural and sampler knives. As the assignment of the patent indicates, knives of all three of the associated companies, Schrade Walden, Ulster, and Imperial at one time or another made use of this patent.

Serrated blades were not unheard of prior to the Wonda-Edge, but they more resembled saws in that they were toothed, with angular serrations, and usually symmetrically grooved evenly on both sides. Mr. Baer’s invention used rounded scallops to increase the length of the cutting surface, and placed the scallops all on one side of the blade to facilitate easy sharpening from the back, or plain side, rather than trying to sharpen the scallops themselves.

The very earliest mention I have found of the use of the Wonda-Edge feature is on the Schrade Walden 1957 price list. I last see them mentioned in 1961. A look at the production reports from the period reveals that the WE blades did not sell well, and thus are uncommon today. But the idea is now quite common on steak knives around the world.

Collectable? Collect what you like and like what you collect. If you are looking to unload it on eBay, don't expect it to bring a large sum, even with a great writeup.

Michael
 
Your brain must spin all night long codger with all this info you can put in writing..Thanks a lot I will put it in the display just because it is a big beauty anyway....Thanks
 
Tell me how to attach one as I have looked several times and been unable to attach one..???
 
As a basic registered user, you aren't paying for the bandwidth to store pictures here. So you have to store them online with a photo hosting site. I use Hunt101, but tinypic and several others will work. Here is hunt101:
http://hunt101.com/

1. Go there and join/ register (free)
2. pick UPLOAD
3. pick BROWSE
4. locate the picture to upload on your computer and select it. the path will appear in the window on the screen.
5. pick upload/submit
6. copy the text under the picture once it uploads
7. paste the link here in your post.

[url-"http://www.hunt101.com/?p=511226&c=500&z=1"]
your picture file.jpg
-[/url]
 
Photos sent Larry..Hope they go through OK...Thanks a lot Guys..
I will try your link next time Codger..Ta
 
All emails bounced back Larry,so I have followed the other advice and will attach links..

These are the links to some of the pics..I had to retake them as they were to large inm the size of the file and they have not come out as well...Been playing,without being that great with my photos,let me know if anyone thinks they rate any good..Thanks..Wade

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Interesting knife! Edit your link and post the one that says : your picture[URL] at the bottom an...g]http://www.hunt101.com/img/511302.JPG[/img]

 
Did as you said Codger,now they just appear as crosses...Maybe I should stick to the basics...
 
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Right click on the code below and select copy, then paste it into your favorite webpage or forum!
 
Very nice knife! :thumbup:
As I continue collecting, I find myself more and more drawn to "working pattern" knives. Among these, rope knives, hawkbills, electrician’s knives, (specifically TL-29s), as well as others.

The variations that Schrade produced are amazing. Perhaps they seem so amazing because we are comparing them against other "Knife Companies," or perhaps I should say, more accurately; "Knife Brands."

For all the brands we see, when we look on eBay or when we go to a knife show, there are far fewer manufacturers of knives than there are knife brands. When I read LG4 or Goins' it appears that this has always been so.

Those of us who have been around this forum for some time, know that Schrade & Camillus made many of those brands. I think this gave them an advantage when it came to competing with other companies in the past. I think this is true historically, but obviously this did not ultimately save either company when faced with competition from cheap Chinese knives and perhaps management errors.

Schrade actually made their own knives & therefore had the ability to make multiple variations on a pattern. It may be they had an order for a special feature on a knife; in this case the scalloped edge, or perhaps it was the result of an aggressive Research & Development Department.

In any case, I believe that Schrade was one of the more inventive cutlery companies in American history. I suppose that is to be expected from a company founded by George Schrade, a man who had numerous patents not only for knives and knife mechanisms, but also for cutlery manufacturing machinery.

Pardon my morning ramblings.
I think it's time for more caffeine. :D
Dale
 
Coffee sounds good..Just returned from work..4.30 am and should be in bed,but drawn to the square screen to talk to people I will never see...
It seems to be worth while as I learn about what I have and try to get...
Have a great day up there..Wade
 
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