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Schrade Walden Fact Error
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Welcome Matt. There have been some funny errors posted from time to time. I would say the condition and age of the knife would affect it's value and collectability. A pre-1973 Schrade Walden would be more collectable than one of the Schrade Walden's manufactured after the company went bankrupt.
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I'm not an authority by any stretch, but recently Ebay has been flooded with yellow Schrade Waldens that are misrepresented as old vintage knives. Consequently I've been leery of yellow Schrade Waldens, and have probably passed up some good deals. I'm not saying yours definitely fits in that category.
It has been my belief some of the yellow Schrade Waldens with no pattern stamp on the back of the tang are possibly post 2004 remanufactured Schrade Waldens. For me, the old fashioned blade etch is another red flag.
In your case, there were 834Y Schrade Waldens with the oval shield. Schrade quit mfg the pattern in 1975. The 74 and 75 versions probably did not say Walden on the tang.
Here's one expired auction with what I would consider to be a valid Walden, though poorly photographed 834Y:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHRADE-WALDEN-...6563576QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48820QQcmdZViewItem
If you would take a picture of your knife with all three blades exposed, maybe a comparison could be made. I have a Schrade NY USA 834, but it is brown jigged delrin.
There are several guys who pop in and out of this forum that know more about this than me.
It has been my belief some of the yellow Schrade Waldens with no pattern stamp on the back of the tang are possibly post 2004 remanufactured Schrade Waldens. For me, the old fashioned blade etch is another red flag.
In your case, there were 834Y Schrade Waldens with the oval shield. Schrade quit mfg the pattern in 1975. The 74 and 75 versions probably did not say Walden on the tang.
Here's one expired auction with what I would consider to be a valid Walden, though poorly photographed 834Y:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHRADE-WALDEN-...6563576QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48820QQcmdZViewItem
If you would take a picture of your knife with all three blades exposed, maybe a comparison could be made. I have a Schrade NY USA 834, but it is brown jigged delrin.
There are several guys who pop in and out of this forum that know more about this than me.
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Really nice photo Matt. Biggest difference I see in the one you have, compared to this one and the 834Y in the expired auction is the nail nick. In both the auction knife, and the one I own, the nick is the half moon shape, while the one you have is straight and long. The nicks on the other blades are the same crescent shape.
834 in Jigged Delrin. Schrade NY stamp, so it is post 1973.
834 in Jigged Delrin. Schrade NY stamp, so it is post 1973.
and if you look at the tang stamp font; totally different. i think yellow 834 is new production; and it looks Chinese despite what the tang says. (if it's a repro., then you repro the stampings as well). however, i am an amateur here; but i do have a number of Chinese knives and there is a sort of 'crisp' look to them. make sense to anyone else ? am i 100% wrong ? roland
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I think dlk and Roland are on target. Not Chinese though, American made, but not a pre-1973 Schrade Walden.
Another thing I notice is the "type" used in the shield engraving. All of the Schrade USA knives I have used this "serif" type, compared to the "sans-serif" in the yellow knife. The Oval Shield is a different shape too.
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Unfortunately, since I have been watching this forum, about a year, there has never been any actual former Schrade employees participate that would know these kind of things for sure. I kind of go off of gut feeling, based on what I read and see. Lot's of times it's based on knives I see sold on Ebay. The same sellers usually have a lot of reproductions, and if they have a few that are valid, I may toss a good one in with the others. No pattern stamp on the back of the master blade is one of the first things I don't want to see on a Schrade Walden.
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If you want an opinion, some of the Camillus rejects from the auction last month are beginning to show up on eBay. I don't have any direct knowledge that this is what this knife is, but it would not surprise me in the least to learn that it is a reject SFO from the run they made for SMKW under the name licensed from TBLLC.
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SMKW were selling the Camillus made Stockmans and Trappers, maybe a Peanut also in the clear tubes back in late 2004 early 2005, these are the same style tubes that the original Schrade/Schrade-Walden knives were packaged, the tubes they (SMKW) said were from the original factory buyout. the same as pictured in thread #9, they also came with a cardboard sleeve which mentions that they latter knives were indeed made by Camillus.
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