Schrade Walden NY USA Model 236

[Captvideo]

I purchased this knife recently. I am trying to confirm that it's handles are black jigged delrin and not black jigged bone. They definitely have a delrin like feel. Also, its the tang stamp was used from 1946-1973. Any ideas on a more exact manufacture date? The blades both appear to be polished on both sides. I have read older catalogs mentioning polish on one side of main only and there is a BF thread going into detail about this.

 

[thawk]

Schrade Walden 236 Pattern - 3-9/16″ closed length, with a black celluloid handle, clip and pen blade, brass liners with silver-nickel shield and bolsters, followed the Schrade Cut Co 2364 3/4B pattern. The 236 pattern was revived in 1952, and ended it's run in 1965. Last list price was $3.95.

I suspect different composition handle mateials were used through the years, and I've seen it jigged bone and composition, and smooth composition. It was also offered in a whittler configuration as the 836 and 837 (jigged bone and pressed wood). It came with jigged Delrin at the end of its run, in the brown color. I've seen it with sabre ground and flat ground clips.

 

[Captvideo]

Thank you sir that is my knife.
I just looked at a 1962 Schrade catalog online. My knife also has a less common shield. Rounded v shape with just one center point on top.
I going to post a couple of pics this evening.
Any easy way to tell bone from synthetic on this knife? I have only seen stag bone and the smooth black plastic in the catalogs.

 

[thawk]

Thank you sir that is my knife.
I just looked at a 1962 Schrade catalog online. My knife also has a less common shield. Rounded v shape with just one center point on top.
I going to post a couple of pics this evening.
Any easy way to tell bone from synthetic on this knife? I have only seen stag bone and the smooth black plastic in the catalogs.

I've never seen Schrade where they used dyed black bone. My guess is that it is a rough black acrylic or composition... the shield you describe is the older one.

 

[tongueriver]

I have one of those black peach-seed "bone" knives, and I will bet it is exactly like yours. To this date I am not sure of the material; it may be bone. I have looked at it in very strong light with very good close-up vision made possible by my near-sighted eyes (no, I am not joking). I have shaved a tiny piece off with a sharp blade. I still don't know. I am leaning toward man-made material. But it is a very nice knife. This is not the only Schrade Walden pre-1960 knives which I have seen that have a handle material identity crisis. By the way, I like to call those shields "Crusader" shields. I also have another identical one in red jigged bone and there is no mistaking that one. I can tell from ten feet away.

 

[Captvideo]

I've never seen Schrade where they used dyed black bone. My guess is that it is a rough black acrylic or composition... the shield you describe is the older one.

Given the older shield, the manufacturing date would be in 1952 to 1965 range?

 

[thawk]

I have one of those black peach-seed "bone" knives, and I will bet it is exactly like yours. To this date I am not sure of the material; it may be bone. I have looked at it in very strong light with very good close-up vision made possible by my near-sighted eyes (no, I am not joking). I have shaved a tiny piece off with a sharp blade. I still don't know. I am leaning toward man-made material. But it is a very nice knife. This is not the only Schrade Walden pre-1960 knives which I have seen that have a handle material identity crisis. By the way, I like to call those shields "Crusader" shields. I also have another identical one in red jigged bone and there is no mistaking that one. I can tell from ten feet away.

I know the black material you speak of guys. I had an 883 for a period of time. I was never sure, but I felt stronger towards a man-made material as well.

 

[Captvideo]

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I have one of those black peach-seed "bone" knives, and I will bet it is exactly like yours. To this date I am not sure of the material; it may be bone. I have looked at it in very strong light with very good close-up vision made possible by my near-sighted eyes (no, I am not joking). I have shaved a tiny piece off with a sharp blade. I still don't know. I am leaning toward man-made material. But it is a very nice knife. This is not the only Schrade Walden pre-1960 knives which I have seen that have a handle material identity crisis. By the way, I like to call those shields "Crusader" shields. I also have another identical one in red jigged bone and there is no mistaking that one. I can tell from ten feet away.

I carried the knife all day today, studying it off and on it in the California sunshine. Definitely man made material though it does have some bone like qualities.

 

[Captvideo]

Last question. Since I have the older, "crusader shield," what is the manufacturing date?

 

[thawk]

Last question. Since I have the older, "crusader shield," what is the manufacturing date?

Sometimes in the 1950's unless it is marked Schrade Cut Co, then it's pre 1946. Exact years is tough to determine.

A couple I have owned in the past with the rough black peachseed handles. In their catalogs, Schrade often labeled these as "stagged" instead of bone stag.