Schrade Walden Peanut ?

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Trying to identify this knife. At first I thought maybe a vintage knife but now think it is a newer USA production Schrade Walden made for Taylor Brands based on the round logo on the scales. Does anyone know about these and who possibly made them for Taylor? The fit and finish is GEC quality except the brass liners are thicker than what GEC usually uses. Maybe Queen ?

I had bought this to carry but it looked too minty and I did not want to be the guy to beat it up so was going to sell it for someone's collection but if truly new stuff into my pocket it goes to be enjoyed as I love the look and feel of it.

Any ID or info would be appreciated

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I'm pretty sure these were made shortly before Schrades demise. Not a true Schrade Walden tang stamp...more of a tribute/commemorative I believe. Released while still owned by Schrade USA and before Taylor bought the name?
 
That does not look anything like the schrade version of a peanut that I have ever seen. It looks more like case's style. I'm quite certain this knife is not a creation of the original and true schrade.


Utica has made quite a few schrade walden marked knives under taylor, maybe it was made by them. Utica makes a decent knife.
 
It's model number SWAJB20. Not a model number used by the real Schrade. It wasn't made by Schrade or Case. Doesn't look like Camillus. Several different patterns were made in addition to the peanut. There was also a razor knife in the series and I think I've seen something similar from Bear... so Bear is my guess.

It's a commemorative like Paul said.

The knives were packaged in a nicely styled blue box and on the side of the box (which sellers never showed ;) ) it said:

"This Schrade Walden Knife features high carbon 440 steel blades, nickel silver bolsters, and brass liners. Used under license from Taylor Cutlery LLC"
 
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supratentorial said:
It's model number SWAJB20. Not a model number used by the real Schrade. It wasn't made by Schrade or Case. Doesn't look like Camillus. Several different patterns were made in addition to the peanut. There was also a razor knife in the series and I think I've seen something similar from Bear... so Bear is my guess.

It's a commemorative like Paul said.

The knives were packaged in a nicely styled blue box and on the side of the box (which sellers never showed ;) ) it said:

"This Schrade Walden Knife features high carbon 440 steel blades, nickel silver bolsters, and brass liners. Used under license from Taylor Cutlery LLC"
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Ah, leave it to those more in the know:thumbsup: mine was a guess, not entirely an educated guess:p one of my favorite quotes I live by is: "I know enough to know I don't know enough"
 
It is a post-bankruptcy knife made by Bear and Sons. One quick way to spot them is there is only the rocker pin; no handle pins. They made a few patterns for Taylor, including a trapper, stockman, muskrat, 'razor' knife, maybe one more.
 
Thanks guys. I recently saw a different pattern but similar styled knife on the big auction site that alluded to Taylor Brands and Bear so figured someone here would know for sure. Being a newer commemorative knife I have no worries about being the guy to use it then as I do like the look of it and it feels well made. Monster strong pull on the pen but the primary opens nicely. It is a bit wider than my Case Peanut and while they look very close in size and profile when sitting side by side its slightly larger bulk fits my hand a little better.

Might just become a user now although my GEC #14 single never seems to want to leave my pocket.
 
My first thought when I saw it was that it totally looks like a Bear & Sons, happy to find out I was right.

It does look like a decent knife , hope it serves you well.
 
paulhilborn said:
Ah, leave it to those more in the know:thumbsup: mine was a guess, not entirely an educated guess:p one of my favorite quotes I live by is: "I know enough to know I don't know enough"
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I think that's the Socratic paradox... the oracle said there was no one wiser than Socrates. Socrates concluded that it was because he was aware of his own lack of knowledge. :thumbsup:

But I think you know more than you think you know, Paul. ;)
 
Heirphoto said:
Thanks guys. I recently saw a different pattern but similar styled knife on the big auction site that alluded to Taylor Brands and Bear so figured someone here would know for sure. Being a newer commemorative knife I have no worries about being the guy to use it then as I do like the look of it and it feels well made. Monster strong pull on the pen but the primary opens nicely. It is a bit wider than my Case Peanut and while they look very close in size and profile when sitting side by side its slightly larger bulk fits my hand a little better.

Might just become a user now although my GEC #14 single never seems to want to leave my pocket.
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I think the version made with the Bear branding is also still readily available. If it was the recent auction, the Schrade sold for about twice the cost of the same knife from Bear. The Schrade branding is more well known than Bear...and probably the mystery of the origin also enticed bidders. I'm pretty sure Bear is still making knives in the USA. Worth a look if you like the knife and want more like it.
 
The most recent one I saw (currently listed) is a different pattern, a Barlow if I recall, but clearly the same style and materials although this jigging looks nicer than the type used on the Barlow. I am pretty mush a GEC guy but wanted one or two very traditional looking peanuts. The GEC Beagle and Coyote are nice but not quite the same pattern or look.

I appreciate everyone's help and will not feel bad if I decide to just pocket this one now knowing it is a fairly recent knife.
 
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Good thread guys.

Found this on Google images... looks like a dead ringer for Bear & Sons so at least your knife was made before Taylor started looking overseas for cheaper alternatives :)

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On a side note, I found a very interesting "take" on what Schrade used to be and what it currently is... see the link below. I think a lot of Schrade traditionalists feel the same way and that Schrade basically stopped in 2004 and unfortunately the name can still be used today. Taylor has never manufactured knives so they are putting the Schrade name on contracted knives and now I believe exclusively imported knives. They should have to put an asterisk "*" by the name because that label has nothing to do with the product it is on. I inadvertently bought a knife that was labeled "New York Knife Company Hammer Brand" that I didn't realize was by Taylor. Overall it was a "pretty" knife but not a knife I wanted to add to my collection. Fortunately I got my money back by putting it up on the big auction site but at least I clearly labeled in the description that it was a Taylor and was Made in China despite the "New York" Knife Company stamp.

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/interesting-article-on-taylor-schrade.401321/#post-3710415

- Kevin
 
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veitsi_poika said:
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Good thread guys.

Found this on Google images... looks like a dead ringer for Bear & Sons so at least your knife was made before Taylor started looking overseas for cheaper alternatives :)

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On a side note, I found a very interesting "take" on what Schrade used to be and what it currently is... see the link below. I think a lot of Schrade traditionalists feel the same way and that Schrade basically stopped in 2004 and unfortunately the name can still be used today. Taylor has never manufactured knives so they are putting the Schrade name on contracted knives and now I believe exclusively imported knives. They should have to put an asterisk "*" by the name because that label has nothing to do with the product it is on. I inadvertently bought a knife that was labeled "New York Knife Company Hammer Brand" that I didn't realize was by Taylor. Overall it was a "pretty" knife but not a knife I wanted to add to my collection. Fortunately I got my money back by putting it up on the big auction site but at least I clearly labeled in the description that it was a Taylor and was Made in China despite the "New York" Knife Company stamp.

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/interesting-article-on-taylor-schrade.401321/#post-3710415

- Kevin
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The reuse of a name is fairly common now days. Imperial, Schrade, etc...names have all been purchased and new knives bearing these names are being made in China. Even here in the USA, Northwoods, Scagle, Tidioute are all be used years after the original owners are gone. While all of these names are now used on very high quality, traditional pattern knives sometimes the style no longer follows that of the original makers.
 
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