Scientists invent aliens to rival ET

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Over the years Hollywood has portrayed extraterrestrials in many guises, from the cuddly, childlike ET to the ferocious monster that is Alien.

Now scientists have decided to inject a little reality into science fiction by coming up with their version of what species from other worlds might look like.

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Among the invented species are the stinger fan
, the gulphog [top left] and the skywhale

The Science of Aliens exhibition is their best educated guess at how an alien might look, taking into consideration their likely environments and the laws of physics, chemistry and biology.

Scientists, including the Cambridge palaeontologist Simon Conway-Morris, have come up with a number of species including the stinger fan, a plant-like animal, the gulphog, a dinosaur-type predator, and the skywhale, a flying sea monster.

Stephen Foulger, the manager of the exhibition, which opens at the Science Museum on Oct 14, said: "It is true that some scientists believe complex life forms are rare or possibly nonexistent. But the majority still believe they exist. The problem is that they are so distant, we simply cannot detect them.

"This should not stop us speculating about what kind of worlds they might live on or what they might look like, however. And that is what we have done."

The team has chosen two very different alien environments in which to place their extraterrestrials, Aurelia and Blue Moon.

Aurelia is the planet of a red dwarf, a star much cooler than our own sun. It is locked in such a tight orbit that it is unable to spin, so one side continually faces its sun and the other into the depths of space. There would be no seasons, days or nights.

This would be the world of the 15ft-tall gulphog, the scientists speculate. They have powerful legs, long necks and small heads and can run at up to 40mph. Other inhabitants include the stinger fans, which resemble plants but are flesh and blood and use flower-like tentacles to trap sunlight.

The Blue Moon is a Jupiter-sized planet with an atmosphere so dense that animals of immense size are capable of flight, including skywhales, with 30ft wingspans. Their only predators are caped stalkers, eagle-like carnivores that can cut into skywhales' flesh, while huge trees that grow 9,000ft high provide eco-systems to a fantastic array of other creatures.

Scientists stress that although such creatures may seem strange, they are only obeying the laws of natural selection that gave rise to life on our planet.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...29.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/08/29/ixnewstop.html

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Kane said:
I know I'm not a scientist but I'd call this "making it up"
OF COURSE THEY'RE MAKING IT UP. But the fact remains that they are MUCH better qualified to make this stuff up than we are.
 
If you're at all interested in this sort of intellectual exercise, get one of the science fiction stories by authors qualified to devise interesting aliens, and see how they add in psychology as well as biology. The late Poul Anderson was a master of it, with aliens that really were alien.

Or buy the book: After Man, by Dougal Dixon. His premise was that the collapse of human civilization led to the extinction of overly domesticated H. sapiens. Some millions of years later, the remaining animals had evolved to fill niches which humans had devastated before dying off. Large format, the pictures are the core of the work, with just enough text for context.

He also did The New Dinosaurs, hypothesizing what the dinosaurs might have become if the Chicxulub event had not taken place, and Dinosaurs Still Ruled The Earth. :)
 
It is true that some scientists believe complex life forms are rare or possibly nonexistent.


So, is that to say that those scientists feel that Earth contains the only complex life forums in this entire universe?
 
Among scientists, beliefs about extraterrestrial life are just about as diverse as they are among nonscientists.
 
Belief in anything for which we have zero evidence is as unscientific in a scientist as it is in a layman. There's nothing wrong with speculating, but until we find at least one extraterrestrial life form, based on a different biology than our own, there is no science to exobiology.

Much of the speculation parallels stories from our past, like the strange creatures supposed to live in lands still undiscovered or scarcely explored, or the medieval stories about elves.
 
I agree that having faith that there is ET life is not a scientific proposition. Having said that, I disagree that there's "no science" in exobiology. By examinng the energy balances of various chemical reactions, scientists can give rough odds as to what they think life would need on another planet. Granted, these hypotheses probably won't be confirmed or denied for centuries, but it's a start. The work of exobiologists today could provide direction for interstellar probes whenever we get to the point of launching them.

For those of you who think that government-sponsored exobiologists are making startling discoveries by examining the bodies of captured aliens in area 51, I give you this.
 
The one on the left looks like Jar Jar Binks' bucktoothed sister.
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I think that if scientists ever find life on another planet, it wont be anything like they are envisioning. Who pays them to dream up these fictional creatures living in an imaginary world? I hope it isnt state funded. Why not spend the money trying to get off this rock far enough to find another world?

Although I'll bet it was a more fun than usual exercise for the scientists involved, it is still a waste of time.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
If you're at all interested in this sort of intellectual exercise, get one of the science fiction stories by authors qualified to devise interesting aliens, and see how they add in psychology as well as biology. The late Poul Anderson was a master of it, with aliens that really were alien.

Hey Esav. Please reccomend us some good Poul Anderson novels. I've never read him and don't know where to start. Thanks...ADBF (Who will not build a AFDB to wear on his head. Thankyou Foxholeathiest :) )
 
These very creatures were featured in a couple of television shows on National Geographic channel, or Animal Planet, or something similar. The science behind these things is fascinating. It's all very realistically described, and depicted, although the almost cheesy CGI stuff leaves a little to be desired. Still a cool couple of shows, if you can catch them. I think they may possibly be rerunning them this month.

Daniel
 
Esav Benyamin said:
If you're at all interested in this sort of intellectual exercise, get one of the science fiction stories by authors qualified to devise interesting aliens, and see how they add in psychology as well as biology. The late Poul Anderson was a master of it, with aliens that really were alien.

Or buy the book: After Man, by Dougal Dixon. His premise was that the collapse of human civilization led to the extinction of overly domesticated H. sapiens. Some millions of years later, the remaining animals had evolved to fill niches which humans had devastated before dying off. Large format, the pictures are the core of the work, with just enough text for context.

He also did The New Dinosaurs, hypothesizing what the dinosaurs might have become if the Chicxulub event had not taken place, and Dinosaurs Still Ruled The Earth. :)
Sounds interesting, I'll have to check it out.
I would recommend "The Legacy of Heorot" by Niven, Pournelle and Barnes. A great read. :thumbup:
 
I will second "Heorot"! Also, of course, their crazy aliens of "The Mote in God's Eye".

Poul Anderson I will have to hunt through my books for the names of a few good stories.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
I will second "Heorot"! Also, of course, their crazy aliens of "The Mote in God's Eye".

Poul Anderson I will have to hunt through my books for the names of a few good stories.
I've not read "Mote" yet but if their other stuff is anything to go by it's bound to be good.
Didn't Poul Anderson write that cool story, "The High Crusade" about a bunch of medieval oafs who manage to take over an alien craft and invade the aliens homeworld?
 
Yes. That one was fun.

"Mote" is one of the all-time classics. It took place in a universe I think Heinlein would have recognized.
 
Niven always has been good with aliens. The various life-forms that had evolved in his "The Integral Trees" and "The Smoke Ring" are pretty believable.

Not to mention the Puppeteer kick reflex.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Yes. That one was fun.

"Mote" is one of the all-time classics. It took place in a universe I think Heinlein would have recognized.


I just bought 'Mote,' but I'm reading 'Lucifer's Hammer' right now and just finished 'Footfall.' That was pretty good. 'LH' is pretty good so far.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Belief in anything for which we have zero evidence is as unscientific in a scientist as it is in a layman.

There is evidence that life exists, i.e., we have the Earth as a prime (and only) example. Just to be clear that to believe that ET life exist isn't in the same sphere of implausability as to believe in, say, deities, etc.
 
FoxholeAtheist said:
Niven always has been good with aliens. The various life-forms that had evolved in his "The Integral Trees" and "The Smoke Ring" are pretty believable.

Not to mention the Puppeteer kick reflex.

I second Niven, those 2 titles, Heorot, and the Ring World series are all good.

David Brin also does great ETs. I recommend "Sundiver" as a first foray.
 
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