Scrap Yard Sykco 911 vs Survive! GSO-10

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I have a Scrapyard Knive Works Sykco 911 and a Survive! Knives GSO-10 on order. I am trying to decide which one to keep. I don't really want to test and use both because that will lower the resale value. I will using it primarily as a camping / batoning / chopping knife. There will be lots of batoning of firewood and some chopping of brush in the backyard. I believe the 911 is thicker so that might make it a better batoning blade. Also the 911's handle material might reduce shock during lots of batoning. But the better corrosion resistence of the GSO-10's 3v might be better suited for an all weather camp knife. And the the toughness of the 3v is suppose to be incredible. The GSO-10 comes with a sheath, but I'll also be able to sell it for more. Value is also a consideration. Which should I keep?

911
Overall Length: 14.5"
Blade Length: 9.5"
Thickness: Approx: 1/4"
Steel: SR-101 / 58-60 Rc
Blade Width: 1.70"
Grind: Saber Grind
Handle: Resiprene C
Finish: Black
$170 no sheath


GSO-10
Blade Material: CPM-3V
Blade Length: 10" (tip to front of handle)
Blade Cutting Length: 9.5"
Blade Height: 2.13"
Blade Thickness: 3/16"(.188")
Overall Length: 15.5"
Handle: Micarta
Finish: Tumbled
Grind: ?
$350 w/ sheath
 
What is the attraction to batoning? It seems to me that a hatchet would work much better. If you're worried about selling for more, why not sell the $350 one?
 
john8642 said:
What is the attraction to batoning? It seems to me that a hatchet would work much better. If you're worried about selling for more, why not sell the $350 one?
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I've extensively experimented with axes, hatches, etc. Batoning works best for me.

And if all things are equal, I will keep the one that is the better value. My question is which is the better value for quality?
 
I would have to give Scrap Yard the award for better value. Add a kydex sheath (about $50.00) and you are still MUCH cheaper than the GSO-10. I have zero experience with 3V, So I can't comment on it's performance. I can vouch for SR-101 as being VERY tough and holding a great edge (it will stain though). Also the Res-C handle for me is extremely comfortable and shock absorbent over micarta and G-10. (also cleaner as it does not absorb fluids)

Having said that, I am partial to Busse kin. So take it for what it's worth. lol.
 
blame it on god said:
I would have to give Scrap Yard the award for better value. Add a kydex sheath (about $50.00) and you are still MUCH cheaper than the GSO-10. I have zero experience with 3V, So I can't comment on it's performance. I can vouch for SR-101 as being VERY tough and holding a great edge (it will stain though). Also the Res-C handle for me is extremely comfortable and shock absorbent over micarta and G-10. (also cleaner as it does not absorb fluids)

Having said that, I am partial to Busse kin. So take it for what it's worth. lol.
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Since both Micarta and G-10 are porous materials filled with phenolic, epoxy, silicone, or melamine resin under great pressure, how is it that they would "absorb fluids"?
 
Thomas Linton said:
Since both Micarta and G-10 are porous materials filled with phenolic, epoxy, silicone, or melamine resin under great pressure, how is it that they would "absorb fluids"?
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I watched the micarta handle on my Rodent 9 and Ratmandu absorb mineral oil. They can also be colored with dye. So they DO absorb fluids.
 
find which one you like better in hand? everyone has different mitts, and the blades should be similar enough to where a good handle could tip the scales.

unless you will be camping under water in the ocean I wouldn't worry about corrosion on either.
 
Thomas Linton said:
How much? How deep? I can put Rit dye on glass. The glass is colored when the dye dries out. Who do I blame it on? :o
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This is a good one. I have to do it, blame it on god! I just made my day. And yes micarta absorbs liquid very well G-10 does to. Go with the SYKCO all the way. It is coated just take care of it a bit and all is good.
 
I would personally keep the 911 but only because I prefer 52100 over 3V. Both would serve you for a life time, if I were you I would see which felt better in hand and go from there.
 
The water is retained in the microscopic irregularities in the surface of the material. There are many types of Micarta and many similar materials called "Micarta." G-10 Micarta, for example, retains .05-.2 grams per 25 square CM's (apx 6 square inches) after 24 hours immersion in water. That's .0017857 - .0071428 ozs. of water after 24 hours immersion. The testing protocol that establishes this result is ASTM D570- 98 (2010) e1.
 
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I've seen micarta absorb liquid, but not G10.
I think the scrapyard would certainly be the best bang for your buck.
 
unless you will be camping under water in the ocean I wouldn't worry about corrosion on either.[/QUOTE]

Now that made me chuckle. Wipe down with a little mineral oil now and then, don't leave them wet and don't store them in a sheath. May we all rise and say "Long live carbon steel!"
 
I have both, though I got the GSO-10 at the first Pre-order price so it actually cost less than the 911, The GSO-10 feels and seems a lot bigger because of the noticeably wider blade (and slightly longer), although because the 911 has the extra thickness they feel similar in weight. I prefer the GSO-10 to the 911, do to the wider blade, the steel, not having coating and the looks, Bumping the price up to $350 makes it a lot harder call because I do like the 911 quite a bit as well.
 
Thomas Linton said:
The water is retained in the microscopic irregularities in the surface of the material. There are many types of Micarta and many similar materials called "Micarta." G-10 Micarta, for example, retains .05-.02 grams per 25 square CM's (apx 6 square inches) after 24 hours immersion in water. That's .0017857 - .0071428 ozs. of water after 24 hours immersion. The testing protocol that establishes this result is ASTM D570- 98 (2010) e1.
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That's cool to know the true data but if one is worried about that little of moisture then knives probably ain't for them....
 
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Sorry, that wasn't to be directed, just a general statement.

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michaelm466 said:
I have both, though I got the GSO-10 at the first Pre-order price so it actually cost less than the 911, The GSO-10 feels and seems a lot bigger because of the noticeably wider blade (and slightly longer), although because the 911 has the extra thickness they feel similar in weight. I prefer the GSO-10 to the 911, do to the wider blade, the steel, not having coating and the looks, Bumping the price up to $350 makes it a lot harder call because I do like the 911 quite a bit as well.
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Thanks for the comparison. Can you tell me how they compare in terms of balance? Also, why do you like the wider/taller blade? How is that beneficial?
 
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