Scrapper 5 as a camp knife?

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I'm seriously looking at these. The handle shape looks very comfortable (I like thin grips), and the blade not so long that I wouldn't actually carry it. Nice price, too. It'll mainly be used as a general camp knife for some food prep, wood prep/batoning/chopping, etc. Also as a utility yard/garage knife. So here come the questions. Is it too short for chopping? Is the SR101 blade ideal for that? Can that steel handle batoning? Is the grind (don't know what it's called... just know it's not convex or full-flat) okay for batoning? Any known issues with this knife? Thanks for your help.
 
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Great all around blade. Takes a great edge and holds it. I think it chops enough for camp chores- but it's no 7-10" blade. Another nice plus is it's light and an easy carry.

Love mine!
 
I guess you could chop with it, but I would grab my BK-9 every time over the S5 for chopping. I believe the S5 has a saber grind (I'm no expert on grinds). The S5 takes a great edge and battoning isn't a problem.
 
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And just because I can!

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SFNO is a bit bigger, and can chop better (still undersized for chopping in my opinion though). Both are great knives.
 
It would make a great camp knife. You can batan with it (smaller wood), and it will take a beating too. It does have a saber grind. SR 101 is really great steel.
 
Watch the videos on youtube. You'll get a better idea of the size.
 
This is my Scrapper 5, which was reprofiled, sharpened and polished on a Wicked Edge sharpener.
The edge is now 30 degrees inclusive without a microbevel.
It cuts like a demon and really is an excellent camp knife, though not large and heavy enough to be a real good chopper of course.
Still, hacking through branches the size of my wrist poses no problems, and it can still shave hair afterwards.

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This is my Scrapper 5, which was reprofiled, sharpened and polished on a Wicked edge sharpener....

I think the Scrapper 5 needs reprofiling to be really useful. I bought one new and it wouldn't cut anything whatsoever. It badly needed reprofiling.
 
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I convexed mine as id did not cut a thing with the factory edge
it's a bit too thick at the edge, especially near the tip, mine at least

kwakster, did you reprofile it higher near the tip? as I cannot measure angles, how "high" is the edge? in millimeters if possible :)
 
Since I have never found any reasaon to chop anything with my knives, I think that you are on the perfect track.
 
kwakster, did you reprofile it higher near the tip? as I cannot measure angles, how "high" is the edge? in millimeters if possible :)

I think that distinctive looking grind at the tip is a characteristic of the Wicked Edge system depending on the geometry involved when you go from the straight edge of the blade up the belly to the tip.
 
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Since I have never found any reasaon to chop anything with my knives, I think that you are on the perfect track.

:confused: (not sure what you're saying)

When I'm backpacking and camping I frequently find reasons to chop. Actually, more hacking than chopping, but whatever. I'll still bring my hatchet for larger items, but hacking little branches off trees for various reasons and splitting kindling would be much easier with an appropriate knife.

Until recently I was one of the non-believers regarding chopping and batoning with knives. It just seemed so overkill and silly. But with the right knife you can save weight and space by omitting an axe and other fixed blade altogether, and it is much safer and easier for most wood processing tasks.

Anyway, I ended up getting the Scrapper 5 LE (INFI instead of SR101). It's off right now getting kydex'd by Defaultuser.

kwackster -- What was the angle before you brought it down to 30 inclusive? I guess if SR101 can handle 30 w/ no microbevel and take out branches and the like then INFI should be able to take it also. Any suggestions regarding what kind and grit of sandpaper I'll need to wrap around my sharpmaker rods at 30 degrees to handle burning that much INFI off (no Edgepro, Wicked Sharp or diamond benchstones in my shop)? BTW, tbat is easily one of the nicest looking edges I've ever seen. Nice job!
 
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This is my Scrapper 5, which was reprofiled, sharpened and polished on a Wicked Edge sharpener.
The edge is now 30 degrees inclusive without a microbevel.
It cuts like a demon and really is an excellent camp knife, though not large and heavy enough to be a real good chopper of course.
Still, hacking through branches the size of my wrist poses no problems, and it can still shave hair afterwards.

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Man, that is one sweet edge. I watched the videos on the Wicked Edge site (Google is my friend), and it looks pretty easy to use. I might just have to pick one up and try it one of these days.
 
The original edge on my Scrapper 5 was around 40 degrees on the straight part of the edge and 45-50 (ish) on the curved part towards the tip.
It was reasonably sharp but couldn't really cut well because of this, and imo a knife of this size is used more for cutting than for chopping.

I first reprofiled it to 30 degrees inclusive on said Wicked Edge with just the original diamond stones in gritsizes 100, 200, 400, and 600.
(30 degrees inclusive is the lowest you can go on the Wicked Edge.)
When that was done the edge looked like this:

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It is indeed a characteristic of the Wicked Edge that on longer blades it creates that distinctive wider bevel nearer to the point, which is especially noticeable on medium and larger blades.
On medium sized blades you can counter this effect by clamping the blade more towards the point, but i didn't mind on the Scrapper.
The SR101 steel proved quite abrasive resistant and reprofiling took some time.

The actual sharpening was done by taping several pieces of increasingly finer grits of wet & dry paper to the diamond stones, since i don't have the original finer stones from Wicked Edge.
After the final 600 grit diamond stone i used 800, 1000, 1200, 1500, 2000, after which some no-name polishing compound on thin cardboard, also taped to a pair of diamond stones.

When that was done the edge could whittle hair.
The next day i spent an afternoon in the woods cutting and hacking various softwoods, and among other things a wristsize stick the length of myself was chopped to small pieces, each about the size of the Scrapper handle.
I specifically did this to blunt the edge as much as possible, but in a reasonable way, so no hacking on concrete.

After all this the edge could still shave the hairs on the back of my hand on skinlevel, not above anymore.
The coating is also very durable; it still looked like new.
I'm so impressed with the real world durability and the steel quality that i ordered a handmade Kydex sheath for it.

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SR 101 / 52100 is a great steel, definitely one of my favorites. Very easy to sharpen, very tough, and has good edge holding.
 
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