screw the brass rod test, the file test etc!!!!

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This here's the real test of a knife :cool: :D

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all joking aside I learned alot by preparing an exceptionally delicious stew, I learned alot about geometry of a knife, the practicality of my design in real world use. I have been captivated by kitchen knives, particularly the japanese brut de forge or kuro ichi type knives. Dave Martell, Butch Harner and the cool dudes on knifeforums kitchen forum have helped me out with alot of information. Kitchen knives, the real ones, are a world unto themselves in the knifemaking world. Things that fly in the everyday knife circles would not work in the kitchen knife world, like making a sword is not just making a big knife, making a kitchen knife is not making a knife. One of the biggest overriding factors is thinness! Thin like you never thought a knife could be, transparent steel *cough Butch*!!!! well, not that thin but damn close. It's hard to understand kitchen knives without seeing a really well made one, but it's better to understand them by using one.

It's been said before kitchen knives are one of the last places where a blade is used fulltime by professionals all day everyday. that's a serious test by dudes serious about they're knives. In my quest to make even acceptable kitchen knives I was trying to work things out in the shop, trying for thin thin thin and the right shape, right edge geometry and still but I was neglecting something very important, actually using the knife in the kitchen! I learned 60% of what I need to improve on from cutting a carrot, skinning a potatoe, trimming meat. I can now go back to the shop and continue the quest.
 
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Ps that's my little knife on the right. There is something very satisfying about preparing a meal like that using a knife you made that works well and is comfortable.
 
I love using most of my knives in the kitchen doing the exact same thing (minus the celery :) )just to see how each performs. Enjoy!
 
Bingo Sam!!!
All the tests, exotics steels , hT recipes, etc don't mean crap if the knife don't perform at it's job.
 
I was a chef for years and one good knife test was cutting up chicken. I'd cut about 100 half frozen chickens into 8 pieces; only a good knife would make it without chipping or going dull. A good knife would still shave tomatoes after that, the "real" kitchen test.

Sam, that looks like it would have been one tasty stew.
 
Knife in the kitchen ? Dexterity is essential. The PBS channel had a French woman , Madeleine, who completely boned a duck with an 8" chef's knife .Not a special knife just skill ! Too bad you moved out to LI , I could give you lessons on how to butcher a deer and cook it too .
 
Knife in the kitchen ? Dexterity is essential. The PBS channel had a French woman , Madeleine, who completely boned a duck with an 8" chef's knife .Not a special knife just skill ! Too bad you moved out to LI , I could give you lessons on how to butcher a deer and cook it too .

It seems that most chef's have one knife they use for 90% of their work. One decent chef's knife, a cheap paring knife, and maybe a boning knife.

The last place I worked at had a well known "celebrity" chef. He used a $30 serrated bread knife for almost everything but prepping meat and fish. We would keep them sharp on a steel then retire them when the serrations were almost flat.

Our showoff trick was to drop a bell pepper then slice the outside off in one rolling slice. We never got as good as Martin Yan who could do that and leave the white ribs of the pepper intact on the "skeleton."
 
Great stuff Sam!!! :) That's sure a nice looking piece of beef! :thumbup:

I love your Japanese style kitchen knife! I've always had an affinity for those, but still haven't built one. And I completely agree about using one of your knives for food prep. You learn REAL QUICK how important edge geometry is.

I remember when I was doing strictly stock removal and was afraid to grind my edges too thin. I went to cut up an apple one day and the blade would barely wedge into it. Now, you take a 1/16" thick slicer with a nearly "zero edge" and it will almost cut the apple just by setting the knife next to it. ;) :D
 
Dan, I'm eating the 3rd day version of it, it's gotten better each day!

Robert, I would love that, I will take you up on that one day soon I swear it!

Nick, that beef was as per my usual supermarket hunting methods a happy accident :D It was an 8$ chuck roast more tender then filet mignon :D I have some ideas for a set of dies for my little hammer that mimic the japanese hammer dies, this is critical in the shaping of these blades very thin as forged to retain that hammer finish. Updates on that when I get there!
 
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