Sears Craftsman #9481 Schrade 293 variant

FatCity67

FatCity67

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Been on the lookout for one of these since Codger posted info about it years ago.

Paperwork doesn't go with knife but came with it so oh well:D

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/543363-Easter-Goodies?p=5478071#post5478071

#9481 was the Sears Craftsman varient of the base pattern, 293, circa 1971.

293 was the base open stock pattern, an older one going back to at least 1954, likely earlier.

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The paper in the picture does go with the knife. Some people would call that knife a 'gunstock trapper'. I guess Craftsman decided to go with 'skinner'. Real nice find with the box and all.
 
Thanks.

It was my guess that because of the different logo on the paper vs the box and knife shield that the insert belongs to a later 70's version "gunstock" knife. As well as the utilization of skinner vs trapper as you pointed out. Unless this knife came out right as Sears was switching branding logos.
 
I thought the Craftsman Gunstock knives had the "rubber" scales. Here is a picture of a Gunstock knife I have.

 
My thinking of the name of this Craftsman 'Gunstock Skinner' is that it is taken from the pattern of the knife. Like a 94OT Gunstock Trapper. Or a 194OT Gunstock Trapper. It's the pattern of the knife. Craftsman just changed it to 'Skinner' to be different. I don't know where the label of Gunstock Trapper for that pattern came from, but Schrade used it to name their knives of that pattern and people refer to that pattern as Gunstock all the time for knives of that type. Craftsman may have borrowed the term for something else that I don't know about. IMO, the paper goes with the knife. Be happy, it's a nice set!

Here is a nice comparison picture with a 285UH
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Actually, people do NOT refer to that pattern as a 'gunstock'. They call it a trapper. The gunstock frame as generally understood is quite different. But marketing rules. Here is a picture of a knife with an actual gunstock frame.
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Hey yours has a blade etch and mine doesn't. :D

Nice knives.

Saddlebum said:
My thinking of the name of this Craftsman 'Gunstock Skinner' is that it is taken from the pattern of the knife. Like a 94OT Gunstock Trapper. Or a 194OT Gunstock Trapper. It's the pattern of the knife. Craftsman just changed it to 'Skinner' to be different. I don't know where the label of Gunstock Trapper for that pattern came from, but Schrade used it to name their knives of that pattern and people refer to that pattern as Gunstock all the time for knives of that type. Craftsman may have borrowed the term for something else that I don't know about. IMO, the paper goes with the knife. Be happy, it's a nice set!

Here is a nice comparison picture with a 285UH
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Nice!

tongueriver said:
Actually, people do NOT refer to that pattern as a 'gunstock'. They call it a trapper. The gunstock frame as generally understood is quite different. But marketing rules. Here is a picture of a knife with an actual gunstock frame.
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am i correct in my thinking that these are all Camillus made? the 5 lockbacks forgot to add photo
 
tongueriver said:
Actually, people do NOT refer to that pattern as a 'gunstock'. They call it a trapper. The gunstock frame as generally understood is quite different. But marketing rules. Here is a picture of a knife with an actual gunstock frame.
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Actually people DO use the term 'Gunstock' for the trapper type frame. I thought when I used the example of Schrade's 94OT Gunstock Trapper that I made that clear. Not to mention all the people that have run with that moniker when talking about or trying to sell those kind of knives. I've seen it a lot. You seem to like following me around and calling me a liar for some reason. I get it, that the term 'Gunstock' has been bastardized and misused from it's origin in the knife you posted. An example of that is also seen in the picture of the blade etch on the rubber handled lockback above in addition to my Schrade examples. But for the sake of discussion about the paper work that came with FatCity67's knife, what I posted is relevant. I just gave my reasoning as to why I think that FatCity67's paperwork that came with his knife is legit for that knife. It also seems consistent with how Craftsman came up with different names for the knives they contracted from Schrade. Like 'Old Wrangler' or 'Rancher' for their version of the 897UH. I am open to being proven wrong. But basically being called a liar (again)? Not so much.....
 
tongueriver said:
Actually, people do NOT refer to that pattern as a 'gunstock'. They call it a trapper. The gunstock frame as generally understood is quite different. But marketing rules. Here is a picture of a knife with an actual gunstock frame.
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This is correct.

"Gunstock" and "Trapper" are both common patterns. But they are not interchangeable terms.

That beautiful knife in FatCity's post is a trapper pattern.
 
knarfeng said:
This is correct.

"Gunstock" and "Trapper" are both common patterns. But they are not interchangeable terms.

That beautiful knife in FatCity's post is a trapper pattern.
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And yet Craftsman named this trapper the "Gunstock Skinner".....LOL!
And Schrade's 94OT "Gunstock Trapper".....ROTFL!
 
Saddlebum said:
Actually people DO use the term 'Gunstock' for the trapper type frame. I thought when I used the example of Schrade's 94OT Gunstock Trapper that I made that clear. Not to mention all the people that have run with that moniker when talking about or trying to sell those kind of knives. I've seen it a lot. You seem to like following me around and calling me a liar for some reason. I get it, that the term 'Gunstock' has been bastardized and misused from it's origin in the knife you posted. An example of that is also seen in the picture of the blade etch on the rubber handled lockback above in addition to my Schrade examples. But for the sake of discussion about the paper work that came with FatCity67's knife, what I posted is relevant. I just gave my reasoning as to why I think that FatCity67's paperwork that came with his knife is legit for that knife. It also seems consistent with how Craftsman came up with different names for the knives they contracted from Schrade. Like 'Old Wrangler' or 'Rancher' for their version of the 897UH. I am open to being proven wrong. But basically being called a liar (again)? Not so much.....
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I feel bad that my comments have been construed as an attack; I have never intentionally annoyed anyone on the forum. If I wished to execute a small jab to the ribs of anyone, it would be to the marketing and sales folk at Sears and Schrade. Such departments will say anything they can get away with, with no regard for reality. It can be pretty funny. West of Billings, Montana is an arid alkali flat populated with cactus, scraggly brush, rattlesnakes and grasshoppers. The realtors came in and put up a sign for a new subdivision, "Verdant Meadows." The cutlers in the back rooms at Schrade would do some eye-rolling at the characterization of an ordinary trapper as a gunstock. I get a kick out of ebay listings; it is great theater. Ya gotta love "jiggered bone" and a hundred other ludicrous statements. Anyway, any comments I make are in the vein of education. I have made some embarrassing mistakes, also. And I have ponied up with an apology. So, I hope this clears up any misunderstanding. Saddlebum, I enjoy your posts; keep it up. :thumbup:
 
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