Sebenza 21 vs 25 New CRK Owner Thoughts

MatthewSB

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I've been using a Sebenza 25 with Micarta inlay on and off for a few weeks, it's my first Sebenza. Overall, I love it, and no longer have much of an urge to use most of my other knives. I wanted to try a 21, to see which is better for me, so I ordered a serrated Sebenza 21 with micarta inlay. I can't decide which I like more.

The handle of the 25 is smaller around, it's a bit narrower. The finger notch is cool, and although it's way smaller than my middle finger, it does a great job of locating and centering the knife to my hand. The model 21's handle is wider, and is far more comfortable for me.

The 25 has perfect balance while the 21 is a bit handle heavy.

The lock and detent of the 21 feel like other high end framelocks from ZT, Hinderer, Benchmade, Strider, or whoever. The detent is secure, but not overly so. The 25 uses the much bigger ceramic ball for it's detent, and both locks open and closed much more solidly. The model 25 is, by far, the strongest and most stable lock I've ever experienced. It must be tried to be believed. My 25's thumb lugs hurt me when I open and close it several times, and I don't have weak, dainty hands (I crush over 200 lbs on my Captains of Crush grip trainers and my fingers are made of callouses). The detent of the 25 is very strong, and sucks the blade shut from farther out because of the size of the ceramic ball.

The pivot of the 21 is way smoother and slicker than the 25, even though the 21 is a day old and the 25 several weeks. The 21's blade glides open, while the 25 has much more of a bank vault door opening feel.

The jimping on the 21 is normal, and perfect. The jimping on the 25 is odd, different diameter cuts, with a big divot at the end. I really don't get the jimping on the 25.

The shallow hollow grind of the model 21 does not cut any better than the deeper hollow grind of the 25. Good hollow grinds cut very well, bad hollow grinds don't, just like any other grind. I don't think CRK is capable of putting a bad grind on a knife, so with the Sebenzas it's a non issue. Both blades are thick at the spine and thin at the cutting edge, I'm not worried about either breaking or being poor cutters.

My 21 is serrated, my 25 is not. The Sebenza has the unique CRK style serrations cut from both sides. They are amazing, making straight cuts (because the serrations are on both sides of the blade) that absolutely zip right through anything that a plain edge won't. They are far superior to a plain edge for a great many commonly encountered materials, and the only downside is that it is harder to carve with the serrated portion of the blade. I don't carve much so it's a non-issue for me.

I don't like lanyards on either, but the 21's lanyard was especially annoying because the pin rattled around in the holes.

If you have big hands, I'd recommend the 21. If you like a detent that is easier to disengage, I'd recommend the 21. If you want a strong detent that hurts your fingers, feels like a bank vault locking when opened, and absolutely will not let your blade open unless you do it intentionally, get the 25. If you want a crazy strong lock that "clunk"s open, get the 21. If you want a lock that is just like many other quality Ti framelocks out there, get the 21. If you want a superior cutting tool, I'd recommend serrations. CRK's serrations are different from any I've ever seen, far superior. Must be tried to be believed. It's a shame that so many are brainwashed into thinking "plain edged only" by forums like this one, they'll never know how effective serrations can be when done right. If you use your knife to carve things, do not get serrations, otherwise I recommend them.

After getting a chance to use both, I can't imagine not owning both. For EDC use I think I'll prefer the 21 because it is more comfortable to my hand, but I doubt I'll sell my 25 because it is the definition of "solid lockup".

Which do you prefer?
 
Good review, I lean toward the 25 simply because it's the latest version of the Sebenza. It would be silly for me to ever think I'd have to choose just one, so I have both. I carry the Umnumzaan and 25 for work and the 21 for everything else. The finger grooves on the 25 fit my hand perfectly and I have a warm fuzzy feeling it won't slip out of my grip. The 21 is a bit easier to take down and reassemble because of the bushing system. I have to pay more attention to the 25 on reassembly. A couple of the 21's required more break in time than the others. Most that I have are very smooth opening. I've never worried about any of my CRK's opening in my pocket. My next Sebenza will be a tanto, then I want a LH micarta 25.
 
Nice review. I didn't know about the both sides serrations. Makes sence to do it that way. Still won't get them but if I wanted them I would love to try Chris's. I have both 21 and 25 also and carry the 21 a little bit more. Real no reason other than feels lighter.
 
I'm a serrations man myself, and I'll have to try them if he ever puts them on a left handed 25. Good descriptive of them, makes me want to try them.

On my 25s (plain and micarta) I find it much easier to lightly flick the blade open. A slight nudge and a partial wrist rotation to the right at the same time and they open effortlessly. To try to use the thumb stud is slightly painful due to the strong 25 detent and the narrow gap between handle and pointed tip of the thumb stud. Far easier to lightly flick it, problem solved.
 
Thank you for this review.
If I had any thoughts of a 25, I can put them away now.
I do have faint thoughts of the Large Insingo Carbon fiber, now I can focus more clearly.:)
(I have the small ones)
 
Torn, myself. The 25 feels much stronger in my hand. I love the subtle palm swell of the 21 but the 25's finger grooves are a nice change and they're cool. The 25 looks and feels more tactical than the 21 and that's where I prefer the 21. I share your sentiments - I won't be without either of them.
 
Your review makes me want a 25 with micarta inlays, to compare with my plain one.
I use both and like the blade of the 25 better; my thumb automatically searches for the notch on the back of the blade.
It's funny, when I switch to the 21 again and there is no notch.
Thanks to the 25 my lg 21 now feels more like a medium. ;)
To sum it up I prefer the 21, probably because I'm more used to it.
red mag
 
25 - thicker blade, bigger pivot, stronger, overall more hefty knife. Great for outdoor!

21 - thinner blade, more pointy, more elegant, lighter. Great for EDC!

And a small visual comparison:

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I was deciding between the 21 and 25 as my first sebenza as well. I liked both, but ultimately the 21 won me over. Might have to pick up a 25 just to have both lol.
 
Had a 25 when they first came out, then sold it. The ONLY thing I didn't like about the 25 is how much the spine sticks up out of the handle. I'm sure it provides a much more secure purchase in some circumstances, but for the most part I found it uncomfortable and the jimping overly aggressive. Everything else about it I absolutely loved. The offset in the handle was a deal breaker though.....
 
My 25 was somewhat stiff to open when new. Over a few months of intermittent use the opening became easier and is now the perfect balance of resistance,strength and ease. I find it works well for edc as well as outdoors work.
 
I prefer the 21 myself. The two are honestly very different knives. I have fondled the 25 but I'm not sure if I'll own one or not. It is very tempting, though. I do wish it still had the bushing and the rotating stop pin as I feel that they're part of what made the Sebenza what it was. I feel like the 25 is a cross between a more traditional Sebenza and any old knife from any other brand. A little less special IMHO. I also feel that it lost some of it's elegance.

I'm really glad that the 21 wasn't discontinued like we all thought it would be a few years ago. I would be happy to see the classic style of Sebenza live on alongside the newer style throughout the years as the two knives both represent very different interpretations of what should go into a pocket knife but with similar profiles at the same time.
 
A month later, I thought I'd post an update.

I started alternating the 21 and 25. The 21 stayed perfect as it came, and like WHP said, the 25 broke in and is now a much smoother knife and is far easier to open. I still prefer the feel of the wider 21 handle, but the 25's thicker blade and grind, larger detent and incredible lockup makes the 21 feel frail in comparison. With the thinner handle, I probably would not like the non-inlaid 25 at all, but with the micarta it feels great and offers a very secure grip. The 25 really inspires confidence, and I can finally answer the "What if {insert unrealistic fantasy event} happens and you only have one folder" question.

I'll never sell the 21, but now that the 25 has smoothed out I cannot think of a better general use folder.
 
After owning both for a bit, I would give a slight edge to the 25. To assist in opening, push the other thumb stud slightly with your index finger, and complete opening arc with thumb as you normally would. I found that it was difficult to open with just thumb before experimenting and discovering this method...;-)
 
After owning both for a bit, I would give a slight edge to the 25. To assist in opening, push the other thumb stud slightly with your index finger, and complete opening arc with thumb as you normally would. I found that it was difficult to open with just thumb before experimenting and discovering this method...;-)

When I first got my 25 2 weeks ago it was really hard to open with just a thumb flick. I have beefed up my thumb, pushing through the raw nail stretching feeling, and along with the 25 having broken in I am now able to reliably open it with just a thumb flick. It's still not what I would consider an easily flickable blade, but it is manageable! You can tame the Sebenza 25 if you keep at it lol.
 
Think its just an awkward movement for the thumb, and the whole hand to perform. Especially with the shallower divot, and the slight resistance the ceramic ball provides. My 21 is much easier to open, but prefer the heftier nature of the 25 and the extra finger notch. Congrats for keeping at it!...;-)
 
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