Sebenza 25 question

LukeTheSpook said:
Who is it?
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It's not super hard to find out with a little digging. But I'm not sure that really matters (not trying to be offensive or anything)

To the OP, after a bit of use and sharpening the edge is not going to be as from factory anyway, if you were good with the price before, I would say just use it and enjoy it. Maybe negotiate the seller to send you a few bucks to keep it in line with what light users are going for. Probably would be about 20-40 bucks depending. That way you save yourself the hassle and get to keep a great knife.

In my opinion, and I don't want to say anything detrimental to my favorite knife brand, some of the CRK's I have received new I prefer to put my own edge on before I ever use them.

There is a theory which is prevalent among some users that a factory grind wheel puts a somewhat unstable edge on anyway.

Just my advice, it's worth exactly what you paid for it, but I would keep and enjoy it.
 
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Brand new never used is just that... slight use,sharpened, no wear and tear..is another. The guys who sell on the forum should be held to a much higher level of disclosure than Fleabay.... and willing , unless stated offer a return policy....
 
bart1 said:
Brand new never used is just that... slight use,sharpened, no wear and tear..is another. The guys who sell on the forum should be held to a much higher level of disclosure than Fleabay.... and willing , unless stated offer a return policy

Redacted on account of erroneous assumption.
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The factory edge is not mirror from CRK. I just bought a brand new 21, from the dealer, last week and can see vertical (up and down) grind marks on the edge. While the edge is somewhat convex, it is not blatantly so. You kind of have to look closer to see the curvature to it.

If this had been sharpened, I don't see that in the listing. I definitely agree that we, on this forum, should abide by a higher standard than what is expected on eBay, etc...

It would be helpful to see pictures of what is being discussed.
 
Lebowski22 said:
I absolutely agree, this was the listing text (below) I took it directly from the ad. I have zero affiliation with the seller, but perhaps the condition was as stated? Perhaps not. I don't know what was promised or asked in private, and I don't know the price paid.

Does not sound like "BNIB" from the description. Again, I'm just trying to provide the simplest possible solution. We are a small community and we should try to work together.


1. Sebenza 25 with Micarta Inlay - Knife has been handled, carried within the house a bit, No hard use just opening letters/envelops, i just re-attached the lanyard.

Comes with everything it should, birthday card, hex keys, docs, loctite, grease (not sure how much left)

Birthdate: September 24, 2014
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That's my sale thread but I have not sold it to the OP, I still have the Sebenza 25 and have a different buyer, please be responsible enough when posting things like these as this could ruin somebody's reputation, in this case, my reputation.

And can the OP please clear my name on this? Thank you in advance.
 
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eowyn873 said:
That's my sale thread but I have not sold it to the OP, I still have the Sebenza 25 and have a different buyer, please be responsible enough when posting things like these as this could ruin somebody's reputation, in this case, my reputation.

And can the OP please clear my name on this? Thank you in advance.
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That's my fault. Got my lines crossed. Allow me to apologize and rectify.
 
Yup definitely was not eowyn873.

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I was the seller and from everything that I knew about that knife and from what I observed the edge was not sharpened and hadn't' been used. I don't know if this thread was made before or after the OP contacted me but we came to a resolution so Im not sure why this thread exists. Basically I disagreed with him that the edge was in his words, "Re profiled, blunted tip, and flat spot" but I told him a full refund is no problem if hes not satisfied with the knife.....doesn't matter what the reason is. However he wanted me to send the knife before he sent the refund and wanted me to cover shipping.

I explained to him thats not usually how refunds are handled. That I would send him a refund as soon as the knife was sent back. If I sent a refund before I got the knife it put me in a bad position because if the knife was lost or didn't arrive for some reason I hand no paypal protection.

Well that wasn't satisfactory so I than offered to do a partial refund. I told around $25 would seem fair. The final price the knife sold for was $410. So with the $25 refund it would be a Micarta 25 for $385. In my opinion it was a like new knife but even if it was sharpened I haven't seen any micata 25's for that low. Well he told me he'd like $40. So in essence it would be a micata 25 for $370 which I wasn't too happy with but I ended up agreeing since I just want this to be done with.

In the end I feel I have been more than fare as a seller. I still believe the knife was not sharpened. I've owned around 25 Sebenzas since I've started collecting so I believe I have a pretty good idea what the factory edges look like. But that neither here nor there. The buyer wasn't happy so I agreed to work with him. We came to a resolution IMO that should have been the end of it. This thread IMO was made premature but Im glad it was so I am able to tell my side of the story.
 
mcmc said:
Yup definitely was not eowyn873.

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Separately, agree that if it was sold as new, it should be new, unsharpened, etc. ...[/QUOTE



100% my fault. I clicked the wrong thread link.

It's still easy to find out who. As long as you are diligent and actually careful she you access links. Maybe best not performed on a tiny mobile screen.

Anyway. Sorry for detailing the this thread. I'm finished here.
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mcmc said:
Ok, I found some pictures that make it clear the 25 also should have a polished convex edge.

The seller was on BF; he wants me to pay for my return shipping to him even though he sold the knife as new. Does that make sense to you guys?

I also would like him to send me my funds back first and I will ship the knife back to him at the same time; it only seems fair. Opinions as he is balking.

Thank you all.
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I'm not understanding your description of a polished edge. I've got UG and CCG that have an edge that is buffed but not polished. I'd suggest see what a NIB from a dealer costs and how much you paid and see if the offset in cost is worth anything to you.
I hope you paid through PayPal goods/services. Even if you open a dispute with PayPal, you'll have to ship the knife first, once the knife is in the possession of the seller, then you'll get your money back.
So, no it's not fair to get your money back first and yes, you're stuck with shipping costs of returning it.
As you have just learned, not everyone's description of NIB is the same. That's the gamble everyone takes when not buying from a dealer.
 
If I was buying an expensive knife like a Sebenza I would want it to be perfect. That's just me. If I wasn't happy with the knife I would be willing (not happy) to eat the shipping, so I could terminate the headache, and try again. If the seller is willing to help out that is a bonus. If the seller acted concerned, and made an honest effort to satisfy me, I wouldn't hold it against him.
I was sold up a jacked up s30v Blur, and the other person voluntarily offered to refund some of my money. I used some of the money to send it to Kershaw for repairs. The seller was way too nice to give bad feedback, and in the end I was happy.
 
Also heres my sales thread if anyone interested. Save you the time of having to search for it.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1290461-FS-CRK-Large-Micarta-25-**-430**

The knife was not described as new. It was carried but not used. I said the edge was pristine and sharp so I don't see how I could have missed it being sharpened. I'd like to think I'm pretty knowledgeable about knives and CRK's especially. But like I said Im not here to argue. The seller and I came to an agreement so as far as I'm concerned this is a done deal. I hold no hard feelings and hope the buyer also feels the same.
 
At this point, without pictures, I feel like it is hard to make a judgement one way or another as the condition of the knife is only hearsay.

IMO, this can give both the buyer and the seller (unjustly) a bad rap, but more so to the buyer. With pictures, only one of the two will look like a jerk. OP, without providing ALL of the info, what is the point of this thread? I recommend either posting pics or closing this thread as there has been resolution to the issue and this can't go anywhere but south. This thread belongs in feedback, not this forum.
 
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Thanks to Lebowski22 for dragging my sale thread into this the sale for my Sebenza 25 has been cancelled and payment has been recalled.

And the OP sent me an email asking if my Sebenza25 is still available for sale? Do you think I will do any transaction with you after all of this?

Well thanks to you and Lebowski22.
 
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