Sebenza knock offs!

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I was flipping through a ad in the paper today for Bass Pro Shop and I saw a knife that caught my eye. It's called a Bill Dance folder and is on sale for $5.88 regular price $7.99. It is a VERY VERY close design to a regular Sebenza. I don't have the equipment nor the knowledge to post a pic. Mabye somebody will help me out with that.
The handle shape and the blade are almost identical to a regular sebbie. I don't know what the materials are but, I do know that it isn't a Sebenza.
I don't know if Bass Pro Shop is a national store or not but, anyone in the Joliet, Il area or even mabye the Chicago area might have access to the ad.
 
Made by Frost cutlery

FRBD107.jpg


http://www.eknifeworks.com/webapp/eCommerce/product.jsp?Mode=Text&SearchText=dance&SKU=FRBD107
 
The vtech one is debatable, I don't think it looks too much like it. But the frost one is blatant. L-A-M-E:barf:
 
For that matter, I think the Ritter Griptilian copied the Sebenza blade shape pretty closely, especially compared with the regular griptilian blade designs. Handle is more different than this Bill Dance model, though.
 
I saw this one at a Bass Pro store yesterday, I had my small Sebenza with me to compare. It is a VERY blatant copy.:thumbdn:
 
Actually, the blade shape is the Classic, but the handle is closer (but not identical) to the regular (it doesn't have the cut-out of the Classic). I don't think it affects the Sebenza market one-bit, hence CRK shouldn't need to worry....
 
would you consider this a for of imitation?
alias1.jpg


Specifications
Blade Material: S30V Stainless Steel Hardened to 58-60HRC
Blade Length: 3.60" (9.14cm)
Blade Thickness: 0.120" (3.05cm)
Length Open: 8.25" (20.95cm)
Length Closed: 4.75" (12.07cm)
Handle material: Bead Blast 6Al 4V-Titanium Scales: Blue Anodized Aluminum barrel Spacers: Removable Stainless Steel Carry-Clip
Handle Thickness 0.42" (1.07cm)
Lock Mechanism: Monolock
Blade Style & Opener: Modified Spear Point; Anodized Thumb Stud
Weight: 4.10 oz (116.23gm)
Click to expand...

200 bucks
 
Those are the same materials as a Sebenza and the blue thumblug and backspacer are a little much and marketed toward the Sebenza buyer, but not as bold of a copy as the Frost Cutlery copy.

The Frost Cutlery knockoff is almost identical "looking" to the Sebbie.
 
The Alias I & II are made by Benchmade for Bradley Cutlery if I'm not mistaken. I have one of each, excellent knives but not on par with a Chris Reeve Sebenza.
 
Please forgive me for bringing up an old post, but I have to ask WHY?
pkdmslf, I've read a lot of your post and you seem like a honest and thorough knife aficionado. Because of that; and the fact that you own both; I'd like to know why exactly you believe that it's not on par with a Sebbe.
Also, anyone else that happens to own both knives, please offer your two cents as well.

Thanks a million.
 
Until I got my hands on my first Seb I didn't think that there was that much difference to justify the price differential. The Sebs definitely have a better fit and finish to them, noticeably so to me. The bronze phosphorous bushing is another feature of the Seb that sets it apart. After seeing how Sebenzas are made and how they are each "hand fitted", well that's all she wrote for me. Don't get me wrong, I have both the Alias I and II and I like them very much, as well as other good knives and I won't part with them. But I also now have 5 different Sebenzas, large, small, Regular and Classic, each with Unique Graphics which is another thing I like about "my" Sebs. I know it doesn't make them cut any better but it gives that pride in owning a quality knife and knowing there isn't another one like it. It comes down to what each person considers as quality, my idea of good quality is probably different than yours, and for me that is what sold me on the Sebs. Not sure if that answers your question.
 
To sum it up:
-Sebenza has a pivot bushing, which eliminates bladeplay
-Sebenza offers a higher level of fit and finish, with a hand finished aspect
-Sebenza was first - the blue thumb stud and backspacer are obviously there to imitate, and imitation is the highest of compliments.
 
Thanks a ton for the answers, guys. Just a couple more quick questions. Can the user disassemble the Alias as easily as a Sebenza? And, does the pivot screw work the same way in the fact that you can tighten down the Seb screw all the way and still have it open rather smoothly?
 
redsst, I haven't had any of the Sebs apart yet or any of my Alias's for that matter. I seem to recall a post either on this forum or another where someone took an Alias apart and couldn't get a part off of the front scale where the pivot screw goes through. I tried a search but couldn't find it here. It should be as easy/similar to taking a Seb apart though.
 
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