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Sebenzas cant be flicked open?

In general for all knives: wrist flick no, thumb flick yes.

To put that myth to rest, Chris Reeve in fact recommends that after re-assembly of the knife after cleaning, you should wrist flick it a couple of times to get the lock seated properly.
 
If you bought a Porsche would you slam the door shut a lot? What would be the end result of that door over time?
 
BBQ BOY said:
If you bought a Porsche would you slam the door shut a lot? What would be the end result of that door over time?
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Darn right, and I would sit in the driveway and redline the engine in neutral. Is there a problem with that?



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Generally with Ti framelocks you shouldn't wrist flick them because of the wear it causes and also because they can get stuck with a hard flick.
 
a porsche isn't a cutting tool. i dont flick my knives but for the cost of a seb it should be able to withstand a flick or two...
 
This begs the question....why is a wrist flick necessary?
 
There is a difference between "flick" and "slam".
Why "flick" it any harder than necessary?
+1 on car door analogy.
 
aznpos531 said:
This begs the question....why is a wrist flick necessary?
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How often do you take apart your Sebenza for cleaning? I like to tinker, so I usually take mine apart once every month or two.

Next time that you do, after re-assembly open the knife slowly and carefully and note the lock up. Then wrist flick it open a couple of times and note the lock up again. On my Sebenza it starts at 30-40%, then after the wrist flicks it stops at 50-60% and stays there.
 
four_shore said:
a porsche isn't a cutting tool. i dont flick my knives but for the cost of a seb it should be able to withstand a flick or two...
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four_shore said:
they need stainless steel inserts!
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The price is the result of incredibly tight tolerances which if anything makes damage from high-inertia flicking more evident than on knives that come out of the box with more slop.

Stainless steel inserts wouldn't solve the problem. The first casualty is going to be the stop pin, which the blade is going to peen or deform.
 
BBQ BOY said:
If you bought a Porsche would you slam the door shut a lot? What would be the end result of that door over time?
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Yes, but my door is only 6 pounds :)

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Cynic2701 said:
How often do you take apart your Sebenza for cleaning? I like to tinker, so I usually take mine apart once every month or two.

Next time that you do, after re-assembly open the knife slowly and carefully and note the lock up. Then wrist flick it open a couple of times and note the lock up again. On my Sebenza it starts at 30-40%, then after the wrist flicks it stops at 50-60% and stays there.
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That's not really what I meant. I understand flicking it to properly engage the lockup. What I meant was I don't understand the need to wrist flick your knife during regular use. Usually a finger flick is all that's necessary.
 
I meant a thumb flick. I havent gotten it yet but I want to make sure I don't break the darn thing once I get it. I dont worry about the Striders but this one I wanna be a bit more careful with. Thanks for the info everyone!
 
strongondefense1911 said:
I meant a thumb flick. I havent gotten it yet but I want to make sure I don't break the darn thing once I get it. I dont worry about the Striders but this one I wanna be a bit more careful with. Thanks for the info everyone!
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I think it's a misnomer when Sebenza becomes synonymous with "fragile". I think you'd be hard pressed to break a Sebenza--maybe you could snap the blade, but the structural integrity of the rest of the knife would in no way be compromised. Besides, if you peen the blade stop on the Sebenza, you can rotate the stop pin sleeve. On a Strider, the blade stop is a thumb stud that contacts on one spot--which you can't rotate or change. The solution for Striders with blade-play is to put a cap on the stud, with a Sebenza you can rotate or replace the peened part.

The only part that is more "fragile" would be the blade itself, and blade profiles meant for slicing aren't meant for prying: the reverse also remains true as well.
 
If I remember correctly their objections to wrist flicking was not the occasional wrist flick. It was owners siting and watching a movie or ball game and flicking their knives for hours. They claim that their knives will hold up as well as others to the wrist flick. It just isn't a good idea to abuse the knife.
This explains it better. It is a quote of Anne's taken from a BBQ Boy post on another forum
And agin this has been quoted by Anne Reeves, Chris''s wife:
"Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Reeve Knives
The whole issue of flicking knives has gotten a little away from reality! No, it is not a sin to flick a Sebenza but it is not something we recommend.

Flicking a knife is an activity that has the potential to damage the whole lock mechanism. It causes the parts to slam together, creating unnecessary wear. Flicking the blade open once in a while it is not a problem – in fact, we recommend it as part of the assembly process. It is the compulsive, continuous snapping open of the blade that is a problem; the spending an afternoon in front of the television and flicking-your-knife-open-breaking-the-lock-closing-it-flicking-it-open-again for the duration of a football game, or movie or whatever, and doing it every week.

This is as true for Sebenzas as it is for any other knife – or any hinged mechanism with a stop and a lock. Of all the knives on the market, the Sebenza is best able to withstand flicking because the size of the stop pin/sleeve, and the configuration of the pivot bearing and bearing surface, cause the energy to disperse over a large area.

Here is an analogy that illustrates what we are trying to say:
A man owns a Porsche – it is a well-built car and the whole vehicle has a “bank vault” feel to it. He particularly likes the sound of the doors closing – thunk. To work off his obsessive frustrations about life at large, this man spends hours and hours just opening and closing the door. Eventually the hinges wobble and the doors whistle when he is driving because they don’t close securely any longer. Do you suppose Porsche will replace the doors happily and at no charge?

So in summary, we do not advocate flicking knives at all – it is not in the best interest of the knife – any knife.

Anne"
 
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