Secondary bevel grind on newer models?

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I have a CQC-7A and a Specwar. The 7 has a single edge (chisel grind) and my Specwar has an aftermarket traditional double edge (V grind) on the secondary bevel. I saw a CQC-10 the other day on a website that looked like it too had a traditional V grind on the secondary bevel. I use my Emersons for utility purposes so I prefer the traditional V grind. Are the newer models using the V grind? I've been eyeballing the A-100, Horseman, and CQC-10 lately and if they come with a traditional V grind, I'd be interested in getting a couple of them.
Thanks.
 
The 7a is a v grind only sharpened on one side, the b model is a chisel grind that has an edge on one side and is flat to the edge on the other. The Specwar I don't know would have to see it but I think they are ground one side too save for the spear point model I think and then it would be like the 7a. keepem sharp
 
If you can bet on one thing its that Ernie wont change anything in his line up.

Its still the chisel and single edge bevel V ginds as usual.
 
haze is correct, AFAIK not one single emerson, custom or production, has a std traditional "V" grind, and i dont think that will ever change.

with proper sharpening they will do about anything ya want them to though so i have never seen that as a con, but a lotta folks do.
 
SIFU1A said:
haze is correct, AFAIK not one single emerson, custom or production, has a std traditional "V" grind, and i dont think that will ever change.

with proper sharpening they will do about anything ya want them to though so i have never seen that as a con, but a lotta folks do.
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What the hell is "proper sharpening?" I have never been able to determine what sort of angle I need to sharpen on the sharpened side. The damn knives are built like a tank and if they were sharpened like 99.9% of all other knives in the world I bet I would have heard about them long before I did. I wanted to buy another one but my experience with my commander convinced me that I really didn't want to do that. I can sharpen the thing to where it will cut but I have never been able to make it shave like my BenchMades, Bucks and all my other knives. And for all of you that say it doesn't need to shave, if I can't make it shave I just don't think it is sharp. Two things my knives have to do, shave hair and push cut through a piece of paper held on one corner without pulling or tearing.
 
perhaps "correct sharpening" would be a better term, imho the proper way to sharpen EKI's is by hand not with a machine, the sharpmakers & others dont seem to get the angle right, & ya have to hold them at the correct angle, not straight up/down like others, and i can never seem to do it right with a sharpmaker while by hand following pretty much the instructions on the emrson website i have gotten all of mine plenty sharp, shaving sharp, ya just have to learnt to do it, & once ya get the hang of it its simpler than sharpening a std "V" grind,

FWIW the sharpest knife i have ever seen was a emerson custom zero bevel grind, which is a little different from the production stuff, it has only 2 bevels to deal with vs 3, but i swear with proper sharpening techniques ya can get them plenty plenty sharp, shaving hair with ease.

ya can also send them off to tom krein for a rebevel, IIRC he zero bevels 'em like a custom, and again they are plenty sharp.

it just takes some time to get the hang of it, and its hard to explain in words, would be easier to show ya how, i should make a video showing the way i do it and sell it lol.

but i pretty much follow the tips on the EKI site, i do use a gerber steel vs cardboard for the final step, but have used cardboard and it works too, not quite as well as the steel imho, but it does work.
 
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