Seeking Advice on Dagger Purchase

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Greetings BladeForum People

Recently I lost my Fairbairn-Sykes model 2 copy (manuf. Lewis).
So I am looking to buy a quality dagger with a blade 6” approx. Items I have been considering are listed, with comments, below. Would greatly appreciate any advice, experiences, information, opinions, etc regarding these or any similar knives.


Boker USA-Applegate-Fairbairn Combat Dagger.

Cold Steel PeaceKeeper 1.

Gryphon Terzuola Combat Knife GFPM30A1 (is this a copy of Bob’s old Battleguard?).

Protech Walter Brend Combat Dagger.

Mercworx Shiva Combat Dagger (never held one of these- why do they cost so damn much?).

Dead Metal Knives Queen’s Bishop (never held one of these- know nothing about manufacturer).

Thanks in advance for all constructive responses.
Regards
FB.
 
Out of the knives you listed I think the cs peacekeeper is closest to a true dagger and probably most similiar to your f/s though certain obvious differences of course. Is this a user for you? The gryphon you mentioned is as I understand it a copy of the battleguard, probably the best "fighter" on your list but I don't think of it as a dagger. Why not another f/s? There is a german company called linder that makes some daggers (I think they are german) but I know very little about them. The shiva looks sweet as well but I too question the price. I believe Strider is making a slim dagger style knife that may be worth checking out and I believe has a better price then the mercworx blade.

Good Luck, daggers are very cool but there is alot of crap out there.
 
How about one of these .
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(I do not own one and what I know about them is from their website and discussion about them at knifeforums.com)
 
Thanks Guys

You could be right Edgetrip, perhaps I should think more about a fighter-there are to many 'decorative' daggers about. Thanks for the link Kieth- wasn't aware of those guys, looks like a sophisticated product to judge by the photos.

Thanks again guys ;)
 
Wilkinson Sword, makers of the original FS knife has a US distributor, might as well get the real thing.
 
How about a CS Tai Pan?

Its a nice looking knife in AUS-8 steel, and can be found for about $160 online.
 
Mercworx is the way to go, however, I suggest you purchase the sniper model which has the feel o a dagger and can be used in the same fencing like fighting style as the fairbairn; however, has superior chopping power and survival capabilities. Trust me I decided one day to cough up the cash for one their equatorian models and let me tell you only perhaps TOPS knives can compare to quality and craftsmanship, infact if you have your sights set on a dagger then TOPS makes one called the "Ranger's Edge". But I would go with the shiva or sniper if I were you, once you get it you definately will not be dissapointed. Mercworx and TOPS are the only two companies I have found to truly cut no corners, they make knives that are to be used if you own one you will certainly agree.
 
Waterman333 said:
Mercworx is the way to go, however, I suggest you purchase the sniper model which has the feel o a dagger and can be used in the same fencing like fighting style as the fairbairn; however, has superior chopping power and survival capabilities. Trust me I decided one day to cough up the cash for one their equatorian models and let me tell you only perhaps TOPS knives can compare to quality and craftsmanship, infact if you have your sights set on a dagger then TOPS makes one called the "Ranger's Edge". But I would go with the shiva or sniper if I were you, once you get it you definately will not be dissapointed. Mercworx and TOPS are the only two companies I have found to truly cut no corners, they make knives that are to be used if you own one you will certainly agree.

Thanks for your comments on Mercworx! I have been interested in this brand but I've had a hard time getting much on them and their knives. I have been eyeing the Shiva lately...
 
I have used the Boker, edge grinds are horribly obtuse (>25 per side), the cutting ability is low, the serrations can't cut anything, the handle isn't well shaped, nor secure. Kydex sheath is decent though with a novel retention system.

-Cliff
 
The handle on the AF feels great to me, the most comfortable I have yet felt. The handle is just one of those things on a knife that feels very different to some people. However, it is meant to be used in a fencing grip, not hammer. It would be nice if it were made of kraton.

Those chisel serrations suck on rope and cloth though. What kind of serrations do you like best on rope, general purpose etc?
 
How do you think a double edged knife like the Gerber Mk II would do with Spyderco serrations down one entire side? Do you think they would aid in penetrating fleshy matter?

Thanks for the responses
 
Waterman333 said:
Mercworx is the way to go, however, I suggest you purchase the sniper model which has the feel o a dagger and can be used in the same fencing like fighting style as the fairbairn; however, has superior chopping power and survival capabilities. Trust me I decided one day to cough up the cash for one their equatorian models and let me tell you only perhaps TOPS knives can compare to quality and craftsmanship, infact if you have your sights set on a dagger then TOPS makes one called the "Ranger's Edge". But I would go with the shiva or sniper if I were you, once you get it you definately will not be dissapointed. Mercworx and TOPS are the only two companies I have found to truly cut no corners, they make knives that are to be used if you own one you will certainly agree.

Maybe, but you can get a TOPS for half the price of a Mercworx... so I dunno why you'd go with Mercworx if you think they're the same. I like TOPS, though...
 
ghost squire said:
Spyderco serrations down one entire side? Do you think they would aid in penetrating fleshy matter?
I think this is exaggerated more so than anything, people get fatally stabbed with blunt tipped knives. The serrations would aid in cutting through tough clothing, like very thick leather and such, however a equally thin and aggressive sharpened plain edge would also cut such media very well.

-Cliff
 
To me they (mercworx and Tops) are like different schools of thought, oh and before I forget just to let anyone who is going to buy the shiva should know the blade looks much smaller when you get it than it does on the web, this is why I suggested the sniper model; however, the sniper model is hard to buy at a discount now as they are for the most part out of stock everywhere, also once the shiva grows on you it is a verly loved knife, suprisingly easy to conceal as well.

But back to the question, tops is alot heavier on survival, most of the blades seem to lean slightly in favor of survival as opposed to all out combat, they all have a very Natural feel to them, kind of like the makers almost wished they were knapping them from obsidian or something. In addition, they are nearly all coated black. Mercworx blades are all designed with operations use in mind. The blades are left with a satin finish which can be camoed as needed and the grain lines flow towards the point instead of perpendicular to the edge as in some knives, this makes wiping the blade down with a 3m rag much easier. Generally what I look at in knife quality is the tang, bot Mercworx and Tops always have full hefty tangs, not the skinny rat tail tangs hidden behind so many of those fancy leather wahsered handles or even i some of the more well known companies like SOG and even the Famous Randall knives.

Baisically its like this, a long time ago we had blacksmiths which made swords and daggers and other combat weaponry, these days swords are only made for decorative purposes, except in some areas of the world, and if they do have combat application they will cost you thousands of dollars, knives on the other hand are still made to be used, and in my opinion Mercworx is ironically one of the newer yet other thand tops perhaps the only company to make real warrior blades, holding the equatorian in my hand makes me feel like I have some huge assasins dager from the roman empire or something, which is another reason I like mercworx from a combat perspective their blade design is superior, very similar to designs used by ancient clets and Greeks. The Roman Pugio is also somewhat similar in nature, combining cutting and chopping power, plus the mercworx blades are so thick you could pry just about anything.

Lets put it this way, yes tops are less expensive( I own the tracker, rover atc, alaskan harpoon, and fox), and for a long time I thought that only a madman would pay the prices Mercworx was charging, but then I guess I went mad and bought one(equatorian, sniper, and shiva), I realized I wasn't crazy afterall. Since mercworx blades are so expensive I suggest those who are purchasing them to go for the sniper or Equatorian, as the difference between the shorter blades and these comes out only fifty bucks or so. Also the Mercworx blade is not double edged all the way, the second edge is about less than half of the length of the blade, meaning you can still assist cutting with the other hand on the back of the blade, from what I can tell the sniper model seems to cover all the bases of cutting chopping and thrusting. Realistically if you just want a dagger to have a dagger(because unless you are an operator there really is no practical use for a dagger other than to kill)
 
I was going to finsih saying if you want a dagger just to have one, you may just want to buy the fifty dollar version of the fairbairn sykes knife that is easily found on most knife websites, also even though it sounded like I was putting down SOG they are actually one of my most loved companies, and they are producing a new dagger model which may actually be out already.
 
Waterman333 said:
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Baisically its like this, a long time ago we had blacksmiths which made swords and daggers and other combat weaponry, these days swords are only made for decorative purposes, except in some areas of the world, and if they do have combat application they will cost you thousands of dollars, knives on the other hand are still made to be used

Apparently you have never seen Atrims or Albions... they certainly do not cost thousands of dollars. There are several budget swords that cost around 200-400 (some East Euro smiths make swords for 300-400 dollars, blunted or otherwise). Yeah, knives are made to be used, but I still don't understand why one would spend so much on equipment... unless one's job required it.

That said, what is the knife for? Daggers aren't precisely for utility, they're for killing generally. MercWorx has really nice looking designs and may very well be worth the asking price, but is it worth it for a user blade or is it worth it for a killing blade?

Roman assassin's blade? What would that be?
 
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