Seguin Bowie unaddressed question.

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After reading statements concerning the solder that holds the brass maker’s plaque onto the back of the Seguin Bowie, I wonder why no other part of the knife was age tested? From my own personal experience, I can attest to the likelihood that at one time in its long history the solder failed. When this occurred the owner would have cleaned up the area on the blade with remaining bits of solder on it, and the plaque as well, and resoldered the plaque to the blade. What is so hard for the “experts” to figure out?
 
Wouldn't (properly) soldering the blade affect the heat treat?
How can you be so sure that the owner (a) knows how to solder and (b) has a torch?
(a soldering iron/gun won't heat the blade sufficiently to properly solder the brass plaque on, even if using small diameter plumbing or electrical acid or resin core solder. I seriously doubt they would heat the blade sufficiently to tin it where the plaque is going on)

Why would the solder fail? Not like it is under any stress, or vibration.
 
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Sounds like they are trying ask questions about the authenticity of the Seguin Bowie knife. The OP could be more clear as to what He trying to find ou.
 
I know the topic has been beaten to death in some circles and heated discussions by the thousands over what was the actual knife carried by Jim Bowie at the Alamo. But I have a nagging question that I just cannot shake. The knife known as the Juan Seguin Bowie was for a while the front runner for a knife that may have been one of the knives owned by Jim Bowie at the end of his life. I believe there were several, I think his taste in knives and changes in it's design grew as his legend did. This knife was tested at one point for the silver content where it was marked by Searless and found not to be of the right content for the era. No one ever tested the blade or the handle or anything else and the knife disappeared into history as a fake. However, when you look at the design of the knife next to Searless bowies made about the time that everyone wanted "a knife like Bowies" and the fact that the handle is a dead ringer for the one in his famous painting (a better match than the "family sword" that it is attributed to) And throw in the fact that it is believed that Seguin used Bowies horse and saddle when he was sent for help..... Would it be too far a leap to suppose that he may have had one of Bowies valued blades with him....
What I'm saying is this.... is it possible that someone may have had an authentic knife... but in order to increase interest in the blade attempted to tie the Bowie to a known maker like Searless and in so doing ruined the knife. The Searless mark could be a forgery and the knife could be genuine. If that sounds to crazy take another look at the blade design and compare it to the known design characteristics associated to Bowie
Interesting, found this old post regarding the same subject. I have no idea what is going on here, but it seemed interesting to me to see this old one off post here.
 
Wouldn't (properly) soldering the blade affect the heat treat?
How can you be so sure that the owner (a) knows how to solder and (b) has a torch?
(a soldering iron/gun won't heat the blade sufficiently to properly solder the brass plaque on, even if using small diameter plumbing or electrical acid or resin core solder. I seriously doubt they would heat the blade sufficiently to tin it where the plaque is going on)

Why would the solder fail? Not like it is under any stress, or vibration.
Solder runs around 600 to 700 degrees Fahrenheit, if I recall correctly. That's high enough to soften the temper of the steel (which was probably tempered around 300 to 400 degrees). But you don't have to heat up the entire blade to that temperature - just the spot you are soldering. That's enough to soften the spine of the blade, but in a big knife designed for chopping and fighting, softening the spine probably isn't a bad idea anyway, and wouldn't do much to the edge if you were careful. Even if all of that is wrong, and this really did ruin the temper of the edge, so what? If the knife is really all that old, by the time the owner is soldering the nameplate back on, this would be a showpiece, not a working tool or weapon.
 
Nameplate on blade? Why? Surely better to engrave it.
And if the nameplate is special and the knife is a museum piece...just a blob of UV Loctite would do rather than messing about with soldering.
 
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