Selecting a camp/trail knife

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I have narrowed down my choices for a long blade (+9") camp/trail knife. I will be using the knife for heavy work around a camp. My budget is $200. The following are my choices:

a) Alan Blade Combat Patrol Bowie Knife with a 10" blade made of 5160 steel.

b) Tactical-ops Anaconda with 9.5" blade made out of 1095 steel.

c) Newt Livesay RTAK Survival Knife with 10" blade made out of 1095 steel.

d) Marbles 10" Trail master or Loveless Trail knife made out of 5160 steel.

e) Cold Steel Carbon v Trailmaster.

Which one of these Knives is the toughest, sharpest and best knife for heavy work.

P.S. I would like to thank everybody that responded to my post a few weeks ago on selecting a pair of hunting knives. I selected the Bob Dozier hunting utility knife and companion.
 
I'd second the Busse Basic #9. I've got one and it has gone on quite a few canoeing trips and has become my tool of choice for clearing my backyard of vines, weeds, and up to 2" branches. While I don't own the others, I can unquestionably stand behind Busse's toughness. You might be able to find something that works as good, but nothing is going to outperform it.

I would trust it with my life, which is why it's always strapped to my side when I'm exploring the lakes, rivers, streams, and mountains of East Tennessee.

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[This message has been edited by Codeman (edited 10-26-2000).]
 

a) Alan Blade Combat Patrol Bowie Knife with a 10" blade made of 5160 steel.

Backpacker, I am currently in the process of ordering the above mentioned model with green canvas handle and stainless single guard. Guess that pretty much makes it my pick
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If pure steel performance is the issue, the Busse Basic that others have mentioned.

If traditional is your thing, the Trailmaker.

If you want a knife that was designed by a survival instructor, the RTAK.

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You might want to check out a Himalayan Imports khukuri. They are well within your budget and have been used by Nepalese and other for hundreds of years for exactly what you are talking about using a knife for. They are guaranteed for life and are all one of a kind. There are a couple of models to chose from to accomodate what you specifically need. Go over to the Himilayan Imports forum and contact Bill Martino. He will help you find exactly what you need. If you don't like the one he sends, send it back. He will keep sending you a knife until you find THE ONE.
 
I think I would choose Alan's knife. The modified Infi might be better, I dunno, but the CPB is a true custom knife, no rubber handle, but micarta with bolsters, and should give you excellent service. And 5160 is outstanding steel. It's a classy knife for a reasonable price.


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I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
I'd pick Alan Blade's blade as well for almost the same reasons as Hoodoo. Having a true custom blade has an appeal much greater than any factory knife. But then, I'm weird
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Paracelsus
 
Backpacker,
Of this field of five that you have narrowed your choices to, I would go with the Allen Blade bowie in 5160 no questions asked.
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BackPacker,
I'd go with the Basic 9. I owned one for about a year. An excellent Knife...you won't be dissapointed! I have a BM-E and liked the B9 more and I would prefer the old bm personally.
Any of the knives you listed would be excellent.YOu can't go wrong with any of them.Good luck choosing!
Luke
 
I'd go with Allen Blade myself, without hesitation. True custom, he'll put it together like you like it, sheath is Top Drawer, HUGE bang for the buck, fantastic guy to deal with.

But that's me.
 
In the price range you intend to stay, Allen's CPB will give you everything you need or could possibly want, and leave you with enough dough to buy an inexpensive folder to go with it.

Charlie
 
Does Alan Blade have a website? How can I see a picture of his knives?

Does the Anaconda not stack up? I just placed a want add for it. Thought it was very rugged also, but have never handled any of these so don't know. Dave
 
I'm with Glockman on this one....

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The Anaconada is significantly different than the others in that it is sabre ground, and assuming the edge profile is similar to the other large TOPS knives like the Steel Eagle, will not cut nearly as well as the other flat ground blades listed. The thicker grind however should reduce binding in heavy chopping on softer woods. The steel (1095) is also relatively weak, rusts easily and wears down fast. The handle serrations are very aggressive and do make the grip secure, but I found them the most uncomfortable of any grip I have ever used.

The RCM is much thinner and should in general easily outcut the Anaconada, but will bind excessively on softer wood due to the thinner (3/16") stock. There may also be problems in regards to durability of the edge on hardwoods, but this depends on chopping technique. Of the two coatings (TOPS / Livesay), with the two blades I have used the TOPS coating came off much faster. The Livesay handle will probably be more ergonomic and less secure. Livesay also does more durable Kydex work than TOPS based on the two blades I have seen. Livesay also has a full warrenty, TOPS is claused.

Comparing the Trailmaker and the Trailmaster, these are very similar blades. The Trailmaker has the advantage of a tougher steel, a full warrenty, and a more durable handle (unless excessive humidity is a factor which can rot the stacked leather and as well effect the horn). Both should cut better than the Anaconada, but bind more and do the opposite compared to the RCM. The Trailmaster sheath is very poor in regards to durability, no idea about the Trailmaker.

Allen Blades bowie has (based on the pictures) a much stronger tip than the Trailmaker, which gives it more durability but less penetration. The cutting ability should be similar to the Trailmaker as the profiles are very close, the performance would go with ever one has the thinnest ground edge. The handle material is also more durable than the standard Marbles which can be customized however. Allen does very good Kydex work, as good as the best I have seen.

In regards to the Busse Basic, I would prefer it over the standard Bowie from Allen as I don't like double guards as they reduce the workable grips and his handle does not look ergonomic nor secure - however the latter is fairly difficult to judge from a picture. I have read a couple of reports of use that were positive in nature about the grip though. The Busse grips are less durable cut wise, however tears and cuts can be sealed with open flame and the handle is under a full warrenty anyway. The blade and handle are also at a slight angle which will offer wrist support and will increase your chopping power, it also has a stronger tip grind (and thus less penetrating) than the Combat Patrol Bowie.

Both Allen Blades and the Busse Basic have the only fully enclosed handles which may be important to you depending on the weather.

-Cliff


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While I have no expeience with any of the knives listed, I would pick the RTAK. It has the features I would want. Full tang, slab handle, full height flat grind, 1095 steel, and kydex sheath. And Newt's Wicked Knife Co. makes one hell of a knife. The RTAK is on my "someday" list.

Paul
 
I am with glockman and raptor on this too.

In fact the trailmaster will soon be my camp knife. I just traded my busse steelheart 2 for it.

Newt rtak would be my second choice.

when I was at the knife shop this lebanon war vet came in he was gittery and told me this story of how he was under fire and cut himself through a chain link fence. by the emotions that were coming out of him There is no doubt he wasn't BS-ing. if he was he was the best I have ever seen. and I am from Brooklyn.
 
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