Selling counterfeit merchandise - attn: SPARK

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Why is it that members are allowed to illegally sell counterfeit merchandise on this site (under FOR SALE: GADGETS & GEAR)? I'm specifically referring to counterfeit watches (I'm a watch collector as well as a knife collector)... but this would apply to other items as well.

If members are allowed to sell counterfeit watches, can we also sell counterfeit custom knives, counterfeit paintings, counterfeit money?
 
Why is it that members are allowed to illegally sell counterfeit merchandise on this site (under FOR SALE: GADGETS & GEAR)? I'm specifically referring to counterfeit watches (I'm a watch collector as well as a knife collector)... but this would apply to other items as well.

If members are allowed to sell counterfeit watches, can we also sell counterfeit custom knives, counterfeit paintings, counterfeit money?

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BF Rules Section 3-1-3 seems to cover this. However, some auction sites and forums are much more explicit concerning counterfeit, fake and forged items.

One of the reasons I like BF over most forums is the integrity level that ownership, management and most members strive to maintain. It would be nice to see a stronger position in this area so as not to invite this activity to BF.
 
I know the rules prohibit selling illegal merchandise.

It appears it's OK to conduct illegal transactions on this site, but it's an infraction for pointing it out.

One of the mods replied to me saying, "I am not a lawyer... I don't know that they are illegal." !!!!!!!!!
 
If theyre selling it as a genuine article, then yes, thats deplorable and illegal. If they are selling it as a replica, fake, counterfeit, or "in the style of", then no, it's not illegal. Here's an example from the paintball/airsoft world.

NS Star makes many aftermarket parts for airsoft, paintball and even real firearms, especially optics. An NC Star Eotech replica goes for around a hundred bucks at most places. The real-deal Eotech often goes for closer to 700-1000 dollars. Which would you buy? They are essentially replicas, right down to the warning lables and markings. However, if someone were to throw an authentic Eotech sight on their paintball gun, i'd look at them like theyre nuts.

If there is a forum rule prohibiting replica/knock-off stuff, then yeah, it's pretty clear and obvious, if they're selling it as the real-deal, then yeah, thats pretty obvious too. If theyre just selling an admittedly fake watch, and saying it's a fake, then just don't buy it. Let the watch company get up in arms over the fact that there are more fake rolex's out there than the real deal. It doesn't depreciate the value of a real Rolex.

Also, there is a big difference between counterfeit watches, and counterfeit money. One is a federal crime, the other is copyright/trademark infringement.

If you don't support the seller, don't buy from the seller. Leave the whistle-blowing to the Mods charged with keeping an eye on the classifieds threads.

*Not trying to sound harsh, or saying you shouldn't be concerned about it, but trying to explain that even though some things seem wrong, they're not necessarily illegal. (Just as some things that are illegal, don't necessarily seem wrong)
 
I know the rules prohibit selling illegal merchandise.

It appears it's OK to conduct illegal transactions on this site, but it's an infraction for pointing it out.

One of the mods replied to me saying, "I am not a lawyer... I don't know that they are illegal." !!!!!!!!!

You got an infraction for interfering with a for sale thread, not for "pointing it out". "Pointing it out," would be reporting the post you believe to be against the rules (using the report post button) and letting the mods decide whether or not anything should be done.
 
We don't encourage the sale of replica products, but at the same time we're not the world police, much less the industry police. There have been many heated discussions about knockoffs and replica knives on the forums. The time and the place for those discussions is not in someone's for sale thread. If you purposely screw with someone's for sale thread, in the thread itself, you will get your account pulled. If you choose not to do business with that person, that is your choice.
 
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