Serial number?

waynorth

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Slow on the uptake, I just realized that the rear tang on this Russell-by-Schrade repro is stamped with the serial number on the "certificate"! I've never seen a serial number as a tang stamp; it's usually an engraving or an etch. Does anyone know if this is right/correct, or co-incidence with the model number :confused: ?
A little confused,
Charlie
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waynorth,

One of he first collaborations between Schrade and A.G. Russell was the Kentucky Riffle and to my knowledge, Schrade stamped the serial number on the tang. I'm sure someone else here has more information to your question regarding serial number placement by Schrade. Thanks for the pictures, Beautiful barlow.

Scott
 
I believe that is correct for the Russell-Harrington reproductions, made by Schrade.

Here are two of the newer ones, made by Colonial, not stamped, but etched in a like manner. Says 0262 on the tang...

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Nice knife Charlie...:thumbup: :thumbup:

Bill
 
Nice knives yourself, Bill! That stag looks nice and gnarly, and well matched!
Thanks for the feedback on the numbers.
CC
 
Thanks for the feedback, Scott! Tang stamped serial numbers are the way to go; much more difficult to fake!!
Like the gazillions of so-called "prototype" Case Classics!!
 
waynorth,

One of he first collaborations between Schrade and A.G. Russell was the Kentucky Riffle and to my knowledge, Schrade stamped the serial number on the tang. I'm sure someone else here has more information to your question regarding serial number placement by Schrade. Thanks for the pictures, Beautiful barlow.

Scott

They bought the numbering equipment to do the Kentucky Rifle and screwed up a lot of numbers learning to use the machine. A. G.
 
A.G.
Always nice to see you in here again.
Did you get to keep any of those screwed up serial numberd Kentucky's?
Please tell us a little more abut the screw up.
Thanks
Larry
 
A.G.
Always nice to see you in here again.
Did you get to keep any of those screwed up serial numberd Kentucky's?
Please tell us a little more abut the screw up.
Thanks
Larry

Henry told me they threw them away and just kept numbering from 12,000 (the limit of knives ) to 15,000. so much for dependeing on seriel numbers. A. G.
 
Ahhhh!! Very good to know! No wonder they went to bolster and liner stamping! The softer brass and nickle silver was surely easier to stamp. I knew it was quite often that limited editions exceeded their official limits when looking at the higher serial numbers. The Olympic shooting team Sharpfingers are another example. But now we know that a Kentcky Rifle Commem isn't a fake just because it has a higher number!

Thanks!
Codger
 
It is a real Honor and Pleasure to have Mr. Russell himself add his history to the very little that I contribute to this great forum. The Kentucky Riffle is one of my most prized pieces in my Schrade collection. I have 3 and one of the mis-stamped knives that Schrade made. Schrade decided to put that one to great use and test the scrim die for the Moby Dick line. Schrade buffed out the tail end of the serial number, probably set it aside and then decided to test the die on that stile of knife. One side Kentucky Riffle the other Moby Dick, what a concept, still a prize piece in my collection. I think that tang stamping the serial number on each blade is a difficult process to keep quality control over, having worked in the metal form and stamping business, it is not easy. If it is carefully watched and controlled, it is a great idea. I feel that Schrade was probably trying to mass produce these and as a past operator of this type of machinery, I can only imagine how everybody at Schrade felt when they discovered the problem with the serial number mistake, it's what we in the metal industry call a (REVERSE ORGASM) and it is the most sickening feeling you could ever feel. Thank you Mr. Russell for sharing you history with us and Thank you for selecting Schrade to start the collectors club.
 
Thanks everyone for your contributions! It's nice when a thread turns into an interesting story!!
I haven't owned very many commemorative knives, so I appreciate being able to toss out a question.
The good old BF'ers do it again!!
 
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