serration making equipment?

RHINOKNIVES

RHINOKNIVES

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a little help here guys and dolls. i am looking at getting some machinery to make and sharpen serrations on some of my culinary knives. i've done some of the hand filing stuff but want to hear about professinal grade machines and tecniches. any help out there?
 
Laurence, I got a catalog from a company that made blade grinders. They were the type in an enclosure, with counter rotating wheels inside. You stick the blade in the slot in front, make contact with the wheels and pull back.
Anyway, the accessories that you could get with this grinder consisted of wheels for grinding serrations, and you could get any style of serration you wanted.
The bad news is, I can't find the catalog, and don't remember the company name.
It's possible that a call to Spyderco would net you the name of their supplier, if you said you weren't going to use their style of serrations. :eek: :confused:
 
Laurence,
What type of a grinder do you use? I developed a pretty neat system for serrating but it is designed for a BurrKing and has to be variable speed.
More than happy to email you pictures of it.
 
i have a var, hardcore. our fellow foruite L6 sent me some pic's of one but i would love to get them from you as well as any comments. do you know of any ready to go machines? thanks Laurence
 
Laurence,
There are some diamond wheels but not seen any machines. My process uses a surface grinding wheel and is fairly inexpensive.
I need to get it together and let Dan get it on his tutorial site.
Drop me an email - kcknives@bbtel.com
 
Originally posted by Kit Carson
Larry,
Are there any pictures of knives serrated this way?
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I think Tim Britton, the guy that recommended the grinder, has some pics on his website. I don't have any, I'm not a serrations fan. I'm just a lowdown Tool Whore that likes to watch. :p
 
Can't help you Laurence but if I could throw in my 0.02 and this is not intended to insult anyone so please don't take it that way.

You make such fine knives I hate to see you start putting serrations on them. If your customers demand it, so be it but IMHO they have no place on fine handmade knives. It's like putting sawbacks on so called "survival knives".
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Originally posted by peter nap
Can't help you Laurence but if I could throw in my 0.02 and this is not intended to insult anyone so please don't take it that way.

You make such fine knives I hate to see you start putting serrations on them. If your customers demand it, so be it but IMHO they have no place on fine handmade knives. It's like putting sawbacks on so called "survival knives".
End of rant
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BINGO!!
 
Peter,
I would disagree. If they are done properly and and are appropriate for that particular type knife, they are fine, imho.

:) I'm more of a synthetics guy and feel most woods are useless on a working knife. To make them pretty, they gotta be shiney and that makes them slick.

But, hey, that's why we all do what we do. Cause we can :)
 
As I said Kit, it wasn't intended as an insult to anyone. We each have our likes aand dislikes. I dearly wish I had your talent. I would love to be able to make folders half as good as the ones you throw away. I'm just funny about serrations. First, they are used by many companies to eliminate problems with poorly suited steel. Second, many users like them because they either can't or won't sharpen a good blade. They buy cheap serrated knives and throw them away when they can't saw their way through steak anymore.

They do have their place. I have a diving knife with them. It is intended as a prybar and emergency rope cutter.
I just hate to see them put on something as well made as one of Laurence's knives. It is out of place.

Again, it's just my opinion and not ment as an attack on anyone or their knives. I rust brown a lot of my blades now. There are a lot of people that feel the same way about my doing that.
 
Peter,
I totally agree with you and honor your opinion. Not sure about that Lazza guy :)
I'll attach a poor picture of the style that I do. Outward scallop, and they cut meat as good as they cut webbing. Worked on the design for a year with a wild bunch of Navy EOD guys when I developed the U2.
With that said, I only put them on about 10% of the folders and fixed blades I make.
To me, the lesson here is that if customers ask for and want a unique feature, the maker should at least give it an attempt. Sales is sales. ;)
 

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Originally posted by peter nap
Can't help you Laurence but if I could throw in my 0.02 and this is not intended to insult anyone so please don't take it that way.

You make such fine knives I hate to see you start putting serrations on them. If your customers demand it, so be it but IMHO they have no place on fine handmade knives. It's like putting sawbacks on so called "survival knives".
End of rant
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i don't really like them ether! this is to make a bread knife to round out my culinary line and yes to some extent its by customer demand because they saw some idoit cut a aluminum can in half on a late night infomerial while they were drunk ;) so they have it in the brain that some how that serrations make a superior tomato knife:D
 
got it for $79.99 plus tax from a nice lady there named Audrey, shes a riot!:D if you order anything from them see if you can get here on the phone. i told her that another crazy knifemaker sent me! i hope this does the trick on some bread knives and line cutters.
 
Please post the results or email me! I am into this whole knife making thing to make diggers for metal detecting. Roots are our number 1 non-human nuisance. :D Serrations are a must. The "knives" I make will not have them. But the working tools will.
I have asked this question on here many times and have never got this answer! :)
 
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