Serrations and Patents?

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Theforerunner

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I Know Tom veff has his serrations and his patent on them, I’m just wondering if that covers all manner of “angled serrations”.

I know design patents are loose and there’s a lot of ways to work around them but is Tom bed really the only guy who can’t grind an angled scallop on a blade and sell it? I know there’s reasons why they’re not the best type of serration, [brittle and what not] but I’m only really wondering about the legality of the whole deal. Do you have to have a different degree of angle? Amount of scallops? Etc?

I’m definitely no lawyer but I read the patents and also read that a design patent basically only protects you from literally copying an exact version of something. Like if you help up the original to the copy and (any lay person) couldn’t notice any differences between them, then it would be infringing upon the patent. Idk. I guess when it comes to this stuff it’s all a huge grey area and you could never know how a judge or legal team would think and to what level of scrutiny they’d use against you.

It just seems kind of lame that someone can take something like a scallop on a cutting edge, give it any sort of degree of angle, and then say “I invented this, and no one else can make this.” Be like if I took a spoon and bent it a certain way and patented it, then no one else could have a bent spoon lol... idk
 
I'm the same way with the "Spydie hole". I can understand Benchmade's Axis lock patent. That lock took some R&D to get there, but how much R&D went into drilling a hole in a blade?
 
Theforerunner said:
Haha I know right. It’s pretty ridiculous what you can get a patent for as long as you have the money
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Keep in mind that "Patents" Run Out so at some future date all they can do is turn into a "Trademark" which is harder to enforce than a Patent.
 
i did that many years ago on a knife. now i wish i had photos lol. i doubt you will get in trouble if you try it.
 
As someone who has gone thru the patenting process and lived to tell about it. I have a soft spot for those who go thru the process as well. Some seem silly, but I know from personal experience, having your invention go before patent judges takes some effort. For the little orange item I produce, I put out around 8 thousand dollars and a whole lot of drawing and correcting. One thing is, I learned a good deal about how the process works. I just paid to the government 900.00 to pay the third maintenance installment, which keeps the patent in my name. The next one is 1300 dollars. I'm saving up for that one.
Have a great holiday, Fred
 
There is much difference between a trademark and a patent. They are completely different.
 
Fred.Rowe said:
As someone who has gone thru the patenting process and lived to tell about it. I have a soft spot for those who go thru the process as well. Some seem silly, but I know from personal experience, having your invention go before patent judges takes some effort. For the little orange item I produce, I put out around 8 thousand dollars and a whole lot of drawing and correcting. One thing is, I learned a good deal about how the process works. I just paid to the government 900.00 to pay the third maintenance installment, which keeps the patent in my name. The next one is 1300 dollars. I'm saving up for that one.
Have a great holiday, Fred
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i definitely respect people who come up with an original idea/design/product. I was talking more about just a simple thing like a design gesture like turning a serration 50 degrees being patentable. I guess at one time there must have been a patent for serrations period, but that must have expired a long time ago.
 
Bill DeShivs said:
There is much difference between a trademark and a patent. They are completely different.
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Trademarks don't have the Same Level of Protection that a Patent carries. Much harder to protect the Trademark.
 
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