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If you are experiencing a slow down on BFC we need to know about it on this thread. If you know how to do a Trace Route please let us know where the slow down is occuring and the number of hops.

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glad to see you are back...that was a LONG couple of hours
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....i have surfed around the site a bit (have a brand new NEC 500mhz x 96 ram) and it seems to me EVERYTHING is slow....my internet connection is reading 48000 bps.....hope that helps.. i really dont know alot about this stuff...tom

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Mike,
I'm experiencing a major slowdown. Pages load at about 10% of their normal speed. Sorry, I have no clue how to do a Trace Route.

Rich

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We dance around in a ring and suppose
while the truth sits in the middle and knows.
 
Yeah, it's slow...ran the trace, and it came back thus:

Tuesday, March 07, 2000 03:58:44PM

TraceRoute to host bladeforums.com

# Address Host Name Response Time
1 206.124.75.254 dfw1-dr7a-e1-1.gte.net 0 ms
2 199.180.1.74 Unavailable 0 ms
3 199.180.1.141 Unavailable 0 ms
4 207.115.132.161 Unavailable 0 ms
5 10.10.11.254 Unavailable 0 ms
6 10.10.10.1 Unavailable 0 ms
7 206.124.88.254 fa1-1.dfw2.cr4??te.net 0 ms
8 207.175.100.234 fddi5-0-0.dfw2.gwr1.gte.net 10 ms
9 209.84.26.3 fddi5-0-0.dfw2.uunet1.gte.net 0 ms
10 137.39.75.222 159.ATM5-0.HR2.DFW1.ALTER.NET 10 ms
11 146.188.240.18 102.ATM3-0.XR1.DFW4.ALTER.NET 10 ms
12 152.63.98.242 195.at-2-0-0.TR1.DFW9.ALTER.NET 10 ms
13 152.63.0.125 128.at-5-1-0.TR1.ATL5.ALTER.NET 40 ms
14 152.63.81.29 297.ATM5-0.XR1.ATL1.ALTER.NET 30 ms
15 146.188.232.233 195.ATM9-0-0.GW2.MIA1.ALTER.NET 50 ms
16 157.130.75.94 fdn-gw.customer.ALTER.NET 60 ms
17 216.199.45.253 Unavailable 70 ms
18 216.199.63.201 Unavailable 80 ms
19 216.199.63.190 Unavailable 90 ms
20 216.199.11.131 bladeforums.com 90 ms

Looks like the big stumbling block lies at Alter.Net. Maybe you can start there...hope this helps!


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An optimist thinks he lives in the best of all possible worlds...a pessimist is sure of it.
 
Grrrr...sorry 'bout the formatting...best I can do with my particular utilities...


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An optimist thinks he lives in the best of all possible worlds...a pessimist is sure of it.
 
To do a trace route in Win95/98/NT (same command for all three), open up a DOS prompt (or "command shell") and type the following line while your internet connection is active:

tracert www.bladeforums.com > c:\test.txt

It'll sit there for a while then come back to a prompt. At that point, use Notepad, Wordpad or any other word processor/editor to pull up the file at c:\test.txt. Copy the contents into BF, like mine here:

Tracing route to bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms <10 ms <10 ms fast3-0.inr-63-udo.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.215.1]
2 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms fast4-1-0.inr-102-eva.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.1.141]
3 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms f0-1-0.inr-107-eva.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.235.107]
4 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms fast4-0-0.inr-002-eva.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.0.34]
5 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms pos0-2.inr-000-eva.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.0.73]
6 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms c2-berk-gsr.calren2.net [128.32.0.90]
7 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms BERK--BERK-7507.POS.calren2.net [198.32.249.70]
8 <10 ms <10 ms 10 ms acr1-serial2-3-0.SanFranciscosfd.cw.net [206.24.211.133]
9 <10 ms <10 ms 10 ms corerouter1.SanFrancisco.cw.net [204.70.9.131]
10 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms core4.SanFrancisco.cw.net [204.70.4.81]
11 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms sl-stk-1-H9-0-T3.sprintlink.net [206.157.77.66]
12 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms sl-bb11-stk-2-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.4.33]
13 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms sl-bb10-kc-5-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.205]
14 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms sl-bb10-kc-9-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.2.9]
15 50 ms 50 ms 51 ms sl-bb10-fw-10-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.254]
16 70 ms 80 ms 80 ms sl-bb10-orl-2-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.106]
17 70 ms 80 ms 80 ms sl-gw1-orl-0-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.2.166]
18 541 ms 541 ms 511 ms sl-leadingnet-1-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.152.150]
19 * 110 ms 120 ms 216.199.63.190
20 210 ms * * bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]
21 141 ms 140 ms 190 ms bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]

Trace complete.

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Jim again. What you're seeing is the time delay at each connection link between your rig and the BF server. And according to my very fast connection at UC Berkeley, the single biggest delays in milliseconds is happening at 216.199.63.190 which is probably a router box that BF's server (216.199.11.131) is connected to. Those asterisks mean "it timed out" so they're even more of a delay than the last sprintlink.net hop. The fact that that's pretty slow is a clue there's a communication problem between there and the first box owned by BF's host in the 216.199 domain.

Aaaanyways. If those of you on Windows can do that tracert command to produce "test.txt" files and EMail them to Spark (rather than pasting 'em in this thread, unless that's what Spark wants) you'll be helping a lot.

Jim
 
S...L....O....W is the word. I wish I knew what to tell you, but I guess that is why you make the big bucks.

 
Mike here is the trace I did. Tried to access earlier from work, T1 Line, 100base lan. GAVE UP took TTTOOOOOOO long to load opening page.

1 mr1 (208.225.162.1) 0.882 ms 0.799 ms 0.731 ms
2 632.Hssi5-0-0.GW2.EWR1.ALTER.NET (157.130.14.13) 208.975 ms 6.019 ms 6.949 ms
3 115.ATM2-0.XR2.EWR1.ALTER.NET (146.188.178.10) 5.242 ms 5.596 ms 5.136 ms
4 192.ATM2-0.TR2.EWR1.ALTER.NET (146.188.176.82) 5.851 ms 5.525 ms 5.814 ms
5 105.ATM6-0.TR2.ATL1.ALTER.NET (146.188.136.37) 23.232 ms 25.195 ms 23.747 ms
6 298.ATM7-0.XR2.ATL1.ALTER.NET (146.188.232.109) 23.215 ms 23.127 ms 23.245 ms
7 194.ATM8-0-0.GW2.MIA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.232.237) 38.601 ms 37.484 ms 38.390 ms
8 fdn-gw.customer.ALTER.NET (157.130.75.94) 39.051 ms 38.803 ms 40.108 ms
9 216.199.45.253 (216.199.45.253) 51.116 ms 50.851 ms 51.444 ms
10 216.199.63.201 (216.199.63.201) 58.520 ms 57.527 ms 64.171 ms
11 216.199.63.190 (216.199.63.190) 73.518 ms 65.107 ms 74.827 ms
12 * bladeforums.com (216.199.11.131) 80.530 ms 85.669 ms

Good Luck



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Dwight

It's a fine line between "a hobby" and "mental illness".
 
BF is a great deal slower than it was before you shut it down the 2nd time. Anyway glad BF is back and hope you can resolve the problem.
 
Tracing route to bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms 206.181.236.97
2 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms dca1-cpe8-s8-1.atlas.digex.net [209.49.113.65]
3 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms dca1-core13-g5-0.atlas.digex.net [165.117.17.14]
4 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms iad1-core4-pos4-3.atlas.digex.net [165.117.53.34]
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms iad1-core1-pos1-0-0.atlas.digex.net [165.117.52.185]
6 70 ms 60 ms 80 ms sl-mae-e-f0-0.sprintlink.net [192.41.177.241]
7 121 ms * 161 ms sl-bb4-dc-1-1-0-T3.sprintlink.net [144.228.10.93]
8 * 160 ms 160 ms sl-bb12-rly-3-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.7.157]
9 180 ms * 170 ms sl-bb11-rly-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.7.213]
10 171 ms 180 ms 150 ms sl-bb10-orl-1-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.62]
11 * 161 ms 160 ms sl-gw1-orl-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.2.170]
12 171 ms 170 ms 190 ms sl-leadingnet-1-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.152.150]
13 470 ms 161 ms * 216.199.63.190
14 481 ms 160 ms 170 ms bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]

Trace complete.

[This message has been edited by Paracelsus (edited 03-07-2000).]
 
I have trouble getting past the company firewall with my trace route utility so I got onto the visualroute.com website and did a few traces to "www.bladeforums.com". Some started from California and some from Virginia. Both reported "problems in network FDN.com are causing IP packets to be dropped."
 
Tried it again.

Tracing route to bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 206.181.236.97
2 70 ms 221 ms 100 ms dca1-cpe8-s8-1.atlas.digex.net [209.49.113.65]
3 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms dca1-core13-g5-0.atlas.digex.net [165.117.17.14]
4 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms iad1-core4-pos4-3.atlas.digex.net [165.117.53.34]
5 <10 ms <10 ms 21 ms iad1-core1-pos1-0-0.atlas.digex.net [165.117.52.185]
6 30 ms 40 ms 40 ms sl-mae-e-f0-0.sprintlink.net [192.41.177.241]
7 * 190 ms 201 ms sl-bb4-dc-1-1-0-T3.sprintlink.net [144.228.10.93]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 161 ms 180 ms 150 ms sl-bb11-rly-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.7.213]
10 170 ms 160 ms 130 ms sl-bb10-orl-1-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.62]
11 150 ms 130 ms 170 ms sl-gw1-orl-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.2.170]
12 180 ms 170 ms 160 ms sl-leadingnet-1-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.152.150]
13 210 ms 150 ms 181 ms 216.199.63.190
14 190 ms 160 ms * bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]
15 171 ms * 171 ms bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]

Trace complete.

 
Real slow. Results of trace:


Tracing route to bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 150 ms 131 ms 123 ms 199.70.102.184
2 131 ms 127 ms 125 ms 1.albany-06-07rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.79.70.1]
3 131 ms 132 ms 147 ms 199.70.127.29
4 131 ms 135 ms 127 ms gbr2-a31s5.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.127.11.97]
5 131 ms 144 ms 151 ms gbr4-p70.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.1.177]
6 132 ms 127 ms 130 ms gbr3-p60.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.1.121]
7 137 ms 137 ms 137 ms gbr3-p10.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.2.10]
8 137 ms 137 ms 140 ms 12.122.1.158
9 140 ms 140 ms 141 ms gr1-p340.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.8.218]
10 171 ms 170 ms 167 ms att-gw.dc.uu.net [192.205.32.30]
11 169 ms 163 ms 162 ms 507.ATM3-0.XR2.DCA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.36.90]
12 162 ms 159 ms 159 ms 194.at-1-1-0.TR2.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.33.230]
13 179 ms 180 ms 180 ms 121.at-5-0-0.TR2.ATL5.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.197]
14 181 ms 179 ms 182 ms 196.ATM6-0.XR2.ATL1.ALTER.NET [152.63.81.33]
15 199 ms 191 ms 200 ms 194.ATM9-0-0.GW2.MIA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.232.229]
16 200 ms 199 ms 197 ms fdn-gw.customer.ALTER.NET [157.130.75.94]
17 215 ms 212 ms 209 ms 216.199.45.253
18 185 ms 177 ms 177 ms 216.199.63.201
19 322 ms 197 ms 2118 ms 216.199.63.190
20 189 ms 192 ms 190 ms bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]

Trace complete.

Later,

MBS


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Nevermind the dog...beware of owner!
 
Here's another trace route

Tracing route to bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 19 ms 18 ms 83 ms idq1-6401.rochester.rr.com [24.161.64.1]

2 98 ms 14 ms 10 ms irondequoit-rtr-mcr1.nyroc.rr.com [24.93.0.193]

3 23 ms 111 ms 112 ms 24.93.0.45

4 10 ms 7 ms 6 ms 24.93.0.9

5 50 ms 17 ms 10 ms 169.130.74.41

6 13 ms 12 ms 9 ms at-gsr1-syr-2-0-OC12.appliedtheory.net [169.130.3.73]

7 42 ms 69 ms 12 ms at-gsr2-syr-0-2-OC3.appliedtheory.net [169.130.3.66]

8 39 ms 8 ms 17 ms at-gw2-syr-0-0-0.appliedtheory.net [169.130.3.54]

9 31 ms 21 ms 34 ms sl-bb11-pen-1-0.appliedtheory.net [169.130.1.138]

10 32 ms 24 ms 30 ms sl-bb13-pen-10-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.5.158]

11 59 ms 25 ms 24 ms 144.232.9.242

12 71 ms 47 ms 46 ms sl-bb10-orl-1-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.62]

13 48 ms 42 ms 38 ms sl-gw1-orl-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.2.170]

14 65 ms 53 ms 44 ms sl-leadingnet-1-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.152.150]

15 243 ms 58 ms 63 ms 216.199.63.190

16 61 ms 61 ms * bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]

17 60 ms * 75 ms bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]

Trace complete.


 

Tracing route to bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 38.221.208.1
2 16 ms <10 ms <10 ms 38.21.35.1
3 <10 ms 47 ms 32 ms rc15.ne.us.psi.net [38.1.41.15]
4 <10 ms 31 ms <10 ms rc1.ne.us.psi.net [38.1.21.193]
5 <10 ms 16 ms 31 ms 38.1.10.28
6 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 204.6.140.118
7 16 ms 47 ms 31 ms 159.ATM2-0.XR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET [152.63.35.198]
8 16 ms 78 ms 78 ms 289.ATM3-0.TR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET [146.188.163.78]
9 31 ms 15 ms 79 ms 115.ATM7-0.TR1.ATL1.ALTER.NET [146.188.138.137]
10 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms 200.ATM5-0.XR1.ATL1.ALTER.NET [146.188.232.89]
11 94 ms 47 ms 47 ms 195.ATM8-0-0.GW2.MIA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.232.225]
12 47 ms 94 ms 78 ms fdn-gw.customer.ALTER.NET [157.130.75.94]
13 47 ms 78 ms 62 ms 216.199.45.253
14 78 ms 312 ms 63 ms 216.199.63.190
15 109 ms 63 ms 62 ms bladeforums.com [216.199.11.131]

Trace complete.

problem seems to be just before bladeforums at #14 216.199.63.190


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~ JerryO ~

Cogito Cogito Ergo Cogito Sum


 
We found the speed slow down - we're maxed out on how much traffic we can put out with 10 channels!

Direct T-1 connection to the rescue!!!!!!!!

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com

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