Sgian Dubh...

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Does anyone know where to find a fairly inexpensive, well-made, sgian dubh? I tried the CS version and the tip broke and I've been looking at Sheffield's least expensive w/ Xylo handle, but I'm not sure of the steel they use. Anyone have any suggestions? I don't care what the handle's made of, just not stag as that adds a great bit as far as price, and it, of course, has to have the jimping or file work on the spine. Thanks in advance!!!
 
I don't know of any inexpensive, well-made, sgian dubh. You might have to see about a custom, or modify a similarly styled production fixed blade.

Here's a bit of history of "The Sgian Dubh ".
 
Good info...I was almost certain that the tip would break on all but we'll have to see. Thanks Esav but custom work is too expensive. Maybe one day but no time soon. Still, any word on sheffield's little ditty??
 
Try looking at some of CAS's Sgian Dubhs. I haven't handled any (although I do have the opportunity) but they do look nice enough.
 
Paul Chen offers one in his line of blades. Find a dealer who buys from Blueridge Knives and look in their catalog.

Ron
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Seriously, if you want a blade with a strong tip just about anything works better than a Sgian Dubh.

I would guess that the Sheffield model is made of plain carbon steel.
 
I think it is much more likely that the Sheffield ones are made of crap stainless and are not well suited to being a user!
 
stuartyr said:
I think it is much more likely that the Sheffield ones are made of crap stainless and are not well suited to being a user!
Stuart, would you know of any Caledonian smith's with some good credit or some production sgian dubh's with some merit?
 
Also, I'm aware of the sgian dubh's downfall's as far as design, but it's a Family thing; THAT's why I want one.
 
THe sgain dubh (black knife) is a short knife traditionally carried in the top of one's hose when wearing a kilt. It evolved, I believe, from a blade called the sgain achles (sp?) that had a longer blade and was usually carried hidden in the armpit. When the Hanoverians outlawed the Highlanders from carrying any blade over a certain length, deeming them to be weapons, the Highlanders evolved the sgain achles into the short-bladed sgain dubh. The name, "black knife" comes from the fact that the hilts were usually carved out of an extremely hard and dark wood, frequently in a Celtic interlace pattern. As the wearing of highland dress became less and less of a day-to-day item, the sgain dubh became more and more a piece of male jewelry and that is when you begin to see them with cairngorm stones set into fancy silver mounts at the pommel and with all sorts of other silver trim on them. A similar misfortune befell the Highlander's dirk, a once fearsom weapon that became a form of male jewelry during the Victorian era.

I have seen some very nice sgain dubhs that were made by such custom smiths as Al Massey up in Nova Scotia. The Hanwei version by Paul Chen that SAC Iberia sells is more of the "male jewelry" mode than of the working knife mode, despite its "Damascus"* blade. I am certain that you can find better for the money.

* Better called "pattern-welded".
 
I have a few of the Sheffield ones, and QS is correct, they're made with high carbon steel. Picked one up from Orvis on sale, that was pretty reasonable.

Among customs, I had one made by Dan Maragni that was very well executed. Not sure how to get in touch with him now, but his forged knives have always been well made.
 
I wear a skein dubh from sheffield in my hose tops when piping and it is pitted from sweating thru the cardboard leatherette sheath over the years.All in all the plastic hilted ,paste cairngormed from Rogers look the part.I carry a using knife in my sporran tho.Any of the piping supply or Highland dress houses carry them.tom.

Thig crioch air an t-saoghail, ach mairidh gaol 's ceol.
 
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