Shanghai Shadow and Warrior

upnorth · Jan 14, 2016

These knives are close to a spitting image of the old British Fur Trade dags that were traded at posts up here. So I caught an interest in them. Does anyone here have them ? Do you throw them ? Have you used them roughly ? chopped light tree limbs with them?, thrown them ?, are they pretty tough ? I cared little about them until I saw how much they looked like the old trade dags, now I wanna play, maybe mod. Any experience/observations about either or both is appreciated. Thanks.

dogstar · Jan 14, 2016

I don't own either, but the Shadow is 1055, which is used in their throwers and GI Tanto. The Warrior is SK-5, which is used in the Bushman series. I think they both will be pretty tough, although I've heard rumors of SK-5 knives chipping in extreme cold.

Kwon Kwang · Jan 15, 2016

I own a Shanghai Shadow. Never used it for anything (I just bought it for collection since I think it's an awesome design), but it's pretty darn sharp!

Cold Steel's 1055 is beastly tough. Here's a video of GI Tanto abuse. While I certainly don't expect the Shanghai Shadow to measure up (it's got a much thinner grind and is probably heat treated differently), it's the same steel and a very similar construction.

[video=youtube;uHLIBtB8BOY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHLIBtB8BOY[/video]

G. Scott H. · Jan 15, 2016

Kwon Kwang said:
I own a Shanghai Shadow. Never used it for anything (I just bought it for collection since I think it's an awesome design), but it's pretty darn sharp!

Haha! Same here, only I have both the Shadow and Warrior. The Warrior will likely be the tougher of the two, given the extra 1mm of thickness and flat grind (as opposed to the deep hollow of the Shadow). On the other hand, the Warrior is substantially larger than the Shadow. I posted this pic a while ago, but the difference in size really seems much more pronounced in person.

Kwon Kwang · Jan 15, 2016

Huh. I didn't know the SW had a flat grind. Must be tough! I'd like to know how it slices in comparison to the SS. Thanks for sharing.

dogstar · Jan 15, 2016

G. Scott H. said:

I'd have serious second thoughts about tangling with someone holding one of those.

Jonslaught · Jan 15, 2016

Kwon Kwang said:
Huh. I didn't know the SW had a flat grind. Must be tough! I'd like to know how it slices in comparison to the SS. Thanks for sharing.

That ones likely dc. All the SWs on the Bay are hollow.

Kwon Kwang · Jan 15, 2016

Jonslaught said:
That ones likely dc. All the SWs on the Bay are hollow.

That's fine with me. Hollow ground would certainly be my preference, especially if we're talking about a dagger.

Jonslaught · Jan 15, 2016

Kwon Kwang said:
That's fine with me. Hollow ground would certainly be my preference, especially if we're talking about a dagger.

For use as a thrower, the the extra weight should help with the sink. I shudder to think.

upnorth · Jan 16, 2016

dogstar said:
I don't own either, but the Shadow is 1055, which is used in their throwers and GI Tanto. The Warrior is SK-5, which is used in the Bushman series. I think they both will be pretty tough, although I've heard rumors of SK-5 knives chipping in extreme cold.

Ya, the cold can be tough. I remember rolling the edge on a Becker Brute years ago. The tree was frozen hard as granite. And this is why I will not take my Marauder out to play yet. I doubt that the edge could take it.

upnorth · Jan 16, 2016

G. Scott H. said:
Haha! Same here, only I have both the Shadow and Warrior. The Warrior will likely be the tougher of the two, given the extra 1mm of thickness and flat grind (as opposed to the deep hollow of the Shadow). On the other hand, the Warrior is substantially larger than the Shadow. I posted this pic a while ago, but the difference in size really seems much more pronounced in person.

Man I'm a sucker for blades like this.

Thanks for the pic, appreciated.

G. Scott H. · Jan 16, 2016

Jonslaught said:
That ones likely dc. All the SWs on the Bay are hollow.

I don't know what the status is. The stock photo from CS appears to show a hollow grind, but most actual pics I've seen appear to be flat ground like mine.

upnorth said:
Man I'm a sucker for blades like this. Thanks for the pic, appreciated.

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