Sharing ideas/concerns/opinions with manufacturers....

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My belief is that sharing your ideas, concerns, and opinions with manufacturers, is a good thing.

This may not be something for everyone, but when somebody feels like they should have their voice be heard, they should not hesitate to try and do so, IMO :)

I want to share with you here a time when I did just that. Though it did not achieve what I had hoped, I at least felt that my voice was being heard.

Back during 1993, I purchased a Taurus semi automatic 9mm 15 rd magazine capacity stainless steel pistol. The model was the PT-99 (an adjustable sight version of their PT-92). I enjoyed the function of this pistol, which I thought proved very accurate and reliable. The design itself was closely patterned on the Italian Beretta 92 series.
The one thing I was not all that impressed with, were the smooth wooden grip panals that the gun came with. These grips were visually very appealing, and would probably have been much better if they had been checkered, but the way they came, they were just too slippery. At that time the only checkered grip Taurus optionally offered for sale was a black rubber checkered type that did not look very pleasing in their catalog photo. Even so, I ordered a set.
When the set arrived, I liked it even less, since they were not only mickey mouse looking, but also somewhat uncomfortable in the hands (being made too flat, giving a blocky feel to the gun's grip).

I looked around to find an aftermarket offering, and purchased a set of Uncle Mikes checkered black rubber grips. These were about as close to perfection as I could have imagined, IMO. They looked good, not as nice as wood, but definitely nice (not mickey mousey at all), and they made the gun feel great in my hands, (probably better than any wood could have achieved) :)

I wanted to share these findings with Taurus, but I felt that a letter alone may not really get the point through, so I used some of my ingenuity.
I purchased another set of the Uncle Mikes grips. I then carefully removed the Taurus inset medallians that were in the wooden grips that had come with the gun. The next step involved carefully insetting these medallions into the new Uncle Mikes rubber grips that I had just purchased. I then wrote a letter that praised the PT-99 that I owned, but also expressed what I felt was an easy, but big improvement that could be made on their 92/99 series guns,........... just by adding a
better grip to their guns, one that most people would be happy with right out the box. I went on to say that I had enclosed an example set of better grips, and that the Taurus medallions could be inserted in by the outside firm making the grips for them (in this case it would have been the "Uncle Mikes" firm). I explained what I felt were deficientcies in their company stock and option grips. I finalized the letter by saying that I had no desire whatsoever for any compensation for the grips I sent to them, or for the idea.

Well, as I had said before, it did not accomplish what I had hoped, but I felt they truly appreciated the idea, and they put the prototype I had sent to them to some good use (once the link shows up, you can hover over the photo and an icon will show up on the bottom right that allows enlarging) ..............

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In other situations that I have been involved in, I know for a fact that my
ideas/concerns/opinions actually made a difference.

So go ahead, let your voices be heard :)
 
There is nothing wrong with having your voice heard . As long it is done in a respectful, tactful and discreet manner ..

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For the most part, I feel that to be very true :)

Let's not forget, in a "truthful" manner ;)



PS.
The items they said they would send along in appreciation, it ended up being a "BOX" full of Taurus items :)

They sent along a Taurus logo baseball cap, a very nice Taurus glass mug, Taurus T-shirt, a Taurus key-chain, a Taurus duffle type bag, and some other stuff. Though I wanted no compensation, it was sure nice of them to do that for me :)

The Ted Nugent thing was fun enough ;)
 
Truthful would go without saying for most . Discretion is the opposite side of that sword blade . It is a side rarely sharpened up to its best . It sounds like Taurus appreciated your interest .
 
I'll be honest with you, I was not even a Ted Nugent fan up until they did this with my grips.

But, once they did this, and let me know how pro gun he was, I gave his music half a chance. Though I'm still not a big fan of his music, I have a lot of respect for the man himself.

I even saw him last year in a concert, and he is truly a rip! Made me laugh, and surely is a man who speaks his mind. You simply cannot get more blunt than Ted Nugent............. :)

He actually sang a song that goes like this.............. "Kiss my @@S"........... which absolutely had me rolling (and singing along) :)
 
Ted is definitely outspoken . Owning your own broadcasting station may be a sign of this . He is also very pro active as far as bow hunting is concerned . I too only like a few of his songs . A little too much Cat scratch in the fever for my tastes . I wouldn,t mind shooting with him though .
 
Ever see that reality show he had/has on TV?
He can surely make someone laugh, the things he exposed some of those kids too, OMG! LOL!
 
I wasn't crazy about Ted Nugent after I read more than once of how he evaded the draft. Google it... It's 180 degrees different than the way he carries on today.
 
I like Ted's progun stands. The reality show caters to a need I don't seem to have. I'm glad he's around.



munk
 
I've shared ideas with knife manufacturers before.

I got one of the very first Benchmade Rescue Hooks that came out, back in my Pre-Hospital care days. I liked it really, really well, but there was a blank spot in the center of it that just BEGGED to be slotted for an oxygen wrench. I shot off an email that evening and got a phone call from Benchmade that day. I told them some of my work experiences, (O2 wrenches always walking off, using Leathermans to crack O2, etc.) and told them my idea. they said no one had approached them about it yet, but they'd look into it the idea, and maybe "give me a little something extra for a thank you"

A couple months later the Rescue Hooks materialized with the O2 wrenches on them, although I'd never heard BM again, or recieved anything. (No big deal, seeing them use my idea to this day must mean that someone out there is using it well)
 
Runs with scissors . You never know . There is a good chance you saved someones life or saved them suffering at least .
 
At first I was all fired up- ole boy had mentioned sending me a prototype or two, and I was all ahead of myself thinkin' I might get a dozen Rescue Hooks for my volunteer group, and maybe a cool T-shirt too.

Then when they never showed up, it just seemed really uhmmm...chicken....poopish to call them up and ask about it.

So...I get some personal satisfaction instead.

Ironically though, I still have the first one...never did pick one up with an O2 wrench *L*
 
I don,t think it would be chicken poopish of you at all to send them a thank you note for using your innovation . In that thank you note you could mention it was suggested you might receive a prototype or two . You could further mention what they were going to be used for . Having it in the form of a thank you note and that it was suggested leaves the ball in their court as to good manners . If they don,t have good manners you were proabably never going to get any anyway .
 
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