Sharpen out a favour..

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Yep, I loaned my knife to a buddy for the first, and the last time. Not quite sure what came over me to hand over izzy 10k... but I did. And this is how I got it back...

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Kind of looked like he took the knife and whacked it against metal/rock repeating all the way up and down the blade... I don't know what or how he did it but I was PISSED OFF.

Thankfully, this last Christmas I received a very nice and practical gift from my parents.

I will apologize in advance for the somewhat shoddy picture quality... the lighting in my room at school is not very good and my camera is terrible for bad lighting conditions (especially the close up shots)

What you see here is the "Stone Pond" from Lee Valley, and 2 combination Norton stones. Specifically, they are the 220/1000 and 4000/8000 grit.

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Anyone interested in this pond.. it can be had for ~$65 CAD and includes the pond, 2 clamps, a glass lapping plate, a plastic laminate and 90x silicon carbide for flattening/lapping your stones. I highly recommend it. It is great for storing your stones so they are always soaked and ready to go!

Anyways... down to business. Since the edge was pretty much a butter-knife, I had to go all the way down to 220 grit to fix this. After about 5 minutes of work it had a usable edge again, already able to fairly easily curl paper.

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Then the next 20 minutes was spent working through the 1000 and 4000 grits slowly polishing and getting the bevel nice and true.

My technique for the first 3 stones is:

1) Edge leading strokes, from choil to tip at at ~20 degree angle
2) One side at a time so as to raise a burr
3) Raise burr on other side
4) Start doing alternating strokes per side from 5 down to 1

The final stone polishing comes from the 8000 grit yellow side. It is EXTREMELY soft, and when I first used these stones even the weight of my hands managed to put a few gouges in the stone. Those were quickly lapped away... but this polish really requires a feather touch.

My technique for the polishing stone

1) Move the blade from choil to tip in a continuous motion, and then back again at the same angle as before (This means the first stroke is edge leading, the second (return) stroke is edge trailing)
2) Repeat until entire edge is an even polish

The final step to my sharpen is to hone with a leather strop. I made this one and an identical one for my sister about 8 months ago and it has served me very well. One side uses the green chromium oxide and the other is kept at bare leather.

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After about 5 minutes on the strop we have this result.

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And here is that "reflection" picture people gush about. Not a good picture but there was a nice mirror image over the whole edge.

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Total time taken: 45 minutes
This includes pictures and cutting tests

Normally I wouldn't go all the way to 220 grit, but as you saw the edge was completely ruined.

I learned my lesson though... never lend my knife out again. Or at least, not unless I can see EXACTLY what they will do with it. Izzy 10k can now ride with me again :D

Thanks for reading and happy sharpening =)
 
At least 3 of my knives do this weekly.... The 1st cut is always the hardest but they always shine back up ;) plus if u let ur friends borrow it more u might get quicker @ sharpening and have it done in 10 mins lol
 
Dang.
This is why I don't lend knives/tools...if you need to take my stuff somewhere else, get your own on the way. ;)

Nice write-up, glad to see 10K still going strong
 
The best way to keep friends is don't loan your knives out. If a person is not smart enough to carry his own knife he is not smart enough to use yours. I refuse to carry a loaner or loan any gear out. It just saves wear and tear on my gear, my nerves and friendships.
 
Don't lend out anything you aren't willing to lose or know that the friend will replace it if they ruin it.
 
I use the exact stone pond set-up. 220 and 1000 Norton and 4000 Imanishi waterstones. Does everything real well.

I used to lend tools to apprentices and friends before. No more.
Too much stuff got ruined or I had to spend hours fixing it.
 
Dear God. I'd be curious to know what he did to it to get it like that.

"Hey, can I borrow your knife?" Sure....what for?

Nothing can come between friends faster than money, women and tearing up your tools. You can tell a lot about a person by the condition they return your tools in. A couple Christmases ago a got a nice set of spade bits from my wife’s family. Guy I know pretty well at work asked if he could borrow them a drill a couple holes for a project. Sure. About 6 months later after repeated reminders, he finally brought them back. As he scraped sheetrock mud and Liquid Nails off the roll case they came in and handed them back he said “Hey did a couple of those have the tips broken off when you gave them to me?” Uh, no.

Nice waterstone setup BTW. I'd like to have a set but they look so damn messy.
 
Really enjoyed your post, wolffbite. Thanks.

Gotta say I love that Stone Pond, it looks well thought out and it offers just about everything a man could need for knife sharpening.
 
As they say, hell is other people. Nice restoration on what is obviously your baby :thumbup:

Looks like a solid sharpening rig, too.
 
I've had a friend abuse a blade on me before. He asked to borrow my Delica (yeeeears back, before I lost it) and I was busy working on something else, so I absently passed it off to him. He hands it back with a smirk and an "oops" after having snapped a .25" of the tip off prying open a can of wax with it. Not cool. Luckily you were able to rescue yours.

-Nadz
 
The best way to keep friends is don't loan your knives out. If a person is not smart enough to carry his own knife he is not smart enough to use yours. I refuse to carry a loaner or loan any gear out. It just saves wear and tear on my gear, my nerves and friendships.

You could not be more on the money, if they do not have a knife they don't know what one is for or how it is suppost to be used.
 
Thanks for the comments guys

Adaman: Yeah it can get a tad messy, the muck you see in my photos is from about 8-10 knives (did my mom's kitchen stuff). It all just wipes out for the most part thought.

Hunter: Good advice. I doubt I'll be lending him my knives ever again... and I'll probably just buy a cheapo beater at some point in the event I get asked by anyone again

Just bothers me that people think it's ok to treat stuff this way. I was taught early on that if you broke or damaged something that you didn't own, you apologized and offered to make it up to that person. More often than not the person won't force you to replace it if you've been honest and admit your mistake but we really seem to have lost that common courtesy..
 
Looks like he tried to chop a concrete curb apart.

I bought all my friends a knife. That way they are resposible for their own stuff and I never ever ever ever ever will be asked if I will loan them a knife.

A man without a knife is a questionable man.
 
Thanks for the comments guys
Hunter: Good advice. I doubt I'll be lending him my knives ever again... and I'll probably just buy a cheapo beater at some point in the event I get asked by anyone again

Its a hard lesson to learn. My Grandfather taught me, if I asked to borrow a knife he would say "get your damn own" :D. So after finally getting a knife and learning how to maintain a knife (I was probably 7 or 8) he would always ask me to loan him my knife. I thought this was odd until I noticed he was using it to cut stuff he would never cut with his. Lesson learned I still have one of the old guys Case slippies that i conned him out of and used to cut a piece of bailing wire. I can't bring myself to sharpen the nick out of the spey blade.
 
The best way to keep friends is don't loan your knives out. If a person is not smart enough to carry his own knife he is not smart enough to use yours. I refuse to carry a loaner or loan any gear out. It just saves wear and tear on my gear, my nerves and friendships.

im with hunter. carry your own damn knife.
 
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