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OldVet69

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I posted asking advice about a folder earlier. I ended up purchasing a Gerber Easy Out at Walmart. However, I went a little crazy and also purchased a Scrap Yard De-regulator and a Busse Boss Street. Both the Scrap Yard and the Busse are thick and heavy and both aren't that sharp. Renee at Scrap Yard recommended sharping the De-regulator with a leather strop. Anybody have any experience with sharpening these knifes? Also, I need a sheath for the Boss Street. I got a black on black that was left over from a canceled order. I have committed to getting an Okuden but it will take 8-weeks. Anybody out there who has tried a Mashed Cat?

I have also ordered a Boker Applegate-Fairbairn in All Black. I still want a bigger folder but haven't been able to make up my mind. I am starting to train again and did 5k on the rower today. Yesterday I rolled out my stand with a heavy and speed bag and worked out for about an hour -- doing weights in between hitting the bags.

I think it is time to be serious about self-defense in this country.
 
zyhano said:
Then don't use knives
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Zyhano,

I have a concealed carry permit and many firearms and I practice. I just consider a knife as a last ditch defensive weapon. Right now, I have a J frame, an XPDm 45, and a customized 1911 either on or near me.

I just want to know the best way to sharpen knives like the Busse or Scrap Yard. I don't want to mark them up too much since I probably won't actually use them to cut anything. I might hit some one with the Scrap Yard.

Sometimes I wonder why I bother to ask questions.

Best, Michael
 
OldVet69 said:
I have committed to getting an Okuden but it will take 8-weeks. Anybody out there who has tried a Mashed Cat?
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Both of them make great sheaths. I have a Mashed cat for my HG-55 and Okuden for my Rodent Waki and my Fatty Ash-1. I've met Okuden (Brian) in person several times and he is a stand up guy. I highly recommend that you wait for this sheaths as you won't be disappointed. :thumbup:
 
OldVet69 said:
Zyhano,

I have a concealed carry permit and many firearms and I practice. I just consider a knife as a last ditch defensive weapon. Right now, I have a J frame, an XPDm 45, and a customized 1911 either on or near me.

I just want to know the best way to sharpen knives like the Busse or Scrap Yard. I don't want to mark them up too much since I probably won't actually use them to cut anything. I might hit some one with the Scrap Yard.

Sometimes I wonder why I bother to ask questions.

Best, Michael
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Nothing bad intended :thumbup:
 
OldVet69 said:
Zyhano,

I have a concealed carry permit and many firearms and I practice. I just consider a knife as a last ditch defensive weapon. Right now, I have a J frame, an XPDm 45, and a customized 1911 either on or near me.

I just want to know the best way to sharpen knives like the Busse or Scrap Yard. I don't want to mark them up too much since I probably won't actually use them to cut anything. I might hit some one with the Scrap Yard.

Sometimes I wonder why I bother to ask questions.

Best, Michael
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Let me be the voice of reason here... Don't try to sharpen the Busse's/scrapyard's yet.. ESPECIALLY if you're not using them. Start with something else. I say just leave them as they are to be honest or send them to someone like Knifeknut1013 or Richardj to sharpen.
 
If you want to learn how to sharpen, start by searching and reading through some of the threads that are dedicated to sharpening (there are loads of them). It's not something that you will pick up over night. Look for reviews on sharpening gadgets and gizmos, check to see what instrument works for what kind of blades, etc.
Also, start on your cheapest kitchen knives, unless you want to really frustrate yourself, don't sharpen the Busse as your first initiation into sharpening.

Paperwheels FTW.
 
You're not going to sharpen anything with a leather strop, particularly if they're very blunt and made from good quality hardened steel. If you're not going to use it, don't bother sharpening it, however if you do decide to sharpen them, get hold of an Apex Edgepro or DMT aligner if you want guided systems or just the DMT diamond stones if you want freehand. They will get your knives shaving sharp with relatively little effort.

A strop is basically good for keeping an already sharpened edge sharp when used regularly.
 
Rat Pack #768

Thanks for the information. Brian sent me a couple of e-mails and was asking about a couple of custom Kydex holsters I had made for my 1911's. He sounds like an stand up guy. I am not going to be carrying the Street Boss anytime soon in any case so I will just wait for the Okuden.

I think I am going to start carrying either a 1911 or a Glock 19 on my hip with either a Glock 26 or a J frame on my left ankle. I will also want to carry a good folder. I am thinking an H & K or something similar. As I explained in another thread, I am an old (60 something) Vietnam Vet. I am a decent shot and have a number of pistols and rifles but I can't always be armed. My main problem is when I go to work on campus (I teach). Knifes are banned but probably half the men students are carrying lock blade folders. If the campus cops caught me with a pistol (somehow) then I would probably be really busted. I could probably skate with a lock blade folder.

Anyway, thanks for the advice. I know what a leather strop looks like -- I have seen them used to sharpen straight razors in movies but have never seen one used or even for sale.
 
Thanks for the advice on sharpening. I have a lot of knifes and have ruined at least one by sharpening it. It is a long story but I basically sharpened both edges and it was a knife with a single beveled edge. I have had a DMT (small one for a long time) and just purchased a larger (I think 8 inch dual sided DMT). The one knife that I carry and use is a Benchmade Emerson Combat Folder. The Busse will probably be put in the safe. I may sharpen the Scrap Yard but I must admit that I while I like having a big knife, I don't know what to do with it.

Zyhano, sorry to be short fused, but I am already carrying my Model 60 to the head. I am just getting tired of living in a world where murder seems to be more and more common. I don't go to bars or even out at night and I live in as good a neighborhood as possible but no place seems to be safe. I would rather have a crowbar than a knife in a fight but it is hard to carry a crowbar around. I want to move to the mountains of Montana.

I will probably die of heart disease or a bad liver, but I don't want to be killed without putting up a fight. I guess it is living in a post 9/11 world.
 
Because of its thickness the Reg will give you the most trouble, convex sharpening can and does improve its abilities. its what I did to mine.

For this bevel type my tool of choice is the JRE EMS sharpening block. Its was designed for convex sharpening and works very well.

The busse blade seem to love this type of edge and the steel used sharpenes easily with that method. The is also some good vids at knivesshipfree to get you started.
 
Knifenut1013,

Thanks for the useful information. I am taking a look at the JRE EMS block. I have some of the DMT system sharpening blocks.

I think I will start practicing with some older blades.
 
Mashed Cat makes some really nice kydex sheaths. I really like his sheaths. His turnaround time is really fast too and I bet he already has some Boss Street sheaths made so he will get them to you quick.
 
Just so you know, a strop does not have to be one of those hanging leather straps you see in the barber shop. Heck, I don't even use a hanging strop on my straight razors.

A strop is just a relatively soft surface that you use with an edge trailing stroke. They can be raw or charged with fine abrasive. My favorite strop for knife use is just a block of soft hardwood (obeche) charged with 100k diamond powder. It didn't cost anything and it works great.
 
I would offer another vote for the Edge Pro Apex. It's worth the money for the ease and consistent angle settings that will match the factory edge on most knives and keep 'em that way. I used to freehand and then went to the SharpMaker...no longer.
 
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